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Post by MsMW on 25th November 2010, 21:53

oooohhhhhh that Brindabella Swirl is Gorgeous....oh god the list just doesn't stop growing does it....nor then the dream for more land
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Post by MsMW on 25th November 2010, 21:57

oh now i'm OMG!!! pale that my just joey died from a possum attack.....then Smile at the gorgeous 'The Nun' photo.......

Dear Santa,
I've been a very very great Mother and woman this year can I please have this list.....

Love Ms MW
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Post by orchid40 on 25th November 2010, 22:04

roflmao MsMW, I hope you get all your wishes!

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Post by MsMW on 26th November 2010, 22:09

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this mornings Chicargo Peace...
my ole girl 'Kiya' rests in this pot she helps create stunners.

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Post by MsMW on 26th November 2010, 22:14

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Brindabella L'Amour this morning

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Post by orchid40 on 26th November 2010, 22:32

Lovely roses, MsMW! How nice to have a rose over your dog. A lovely memorial.

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Post by Admin on 26th November 2010, 23:09

Ummm.... MW, what are you going to do when 'Chicago Peace' needs repotting??????? Sorry to mention this.

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Post by MsMW on 27th November 2010, 08:16

Chicago Peace a big pot and Kiya was a cat sooo I think .....if I keep it this size roots won't want to grow bigger:roll:.....ok how do I know when roses need repotting??

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Post by Admin on 27th November 2010, 09:15

To give you some idea of size.... I had a much larger multiflora bush that I dug out because it was virused and so I had to remove the roots too. The plant was only three years old and the roots spread out 8ft in all directions. The 'Chicago Peace' pot is the big blue ceramic/concrete one right? You will find that even in a big pot like that the roots will escape through the bottom and there is a good chance it will split the pot as the roots swell and get into the ground. You can root prune it to keep it short or put it on a hard base but that won't stop the roots from filling the pot in just a few years neaning you will probably have to lift the plant out to keep root pruning it. I don't like to say this but I just pictured an unpleasant event occurring when it came time to repotting in two or three years time and thought if you had time you could maybe swap the plant into the ground or into another pot or something before it got too big and established.... I'm sorry very sorry to bring this up.


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Post by orchid40 on 27th November 2010, 09:39

Sorry MsMW, I thought Kiya was a dog. Hide

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Post by MsMW on 27th November 2010, 12:33

no worries at all she was loyal like a dog Smile

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Post by MsMW on 27th November 2010, 12:37

No sorries needed Simon...its good to know...and fingers crossed in 1-2 years time i'll have our own mother daughter yard to plant them all into the ground...it's the only reason they are in pots for easier transport...
thank you also for how big those roots grow...so...

when you plant roses so many spaces apart from one another do the roots then compete underneith like tree roots do? or are they rather polite and say 'oh dear excuse me i'll just go around you and follow mr worm?' Wink
my imagination has a good sense of theatrical humour in cartoon form.

Roses

seriously though is this a problem people experience in their rose gardens...root cramping?

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Post by Admin on 27th November 2010, 12:57

It depends how they are cultured and what the soil is like (as well as which variety it is though most are grown on Dr Huey or multiflora rootstocks who have extensive rootsystems.. that's why they are good rootstocks).

In general, rose roots are very good at seeking out water and nutrients. In areas that are heavily watered and feed you will find your roses develop a mass of fine roots close to the surface that don't spread out far from the plant. In areas, like in my gardens, where they are grown harder you will see a very different root system. The number of fine roots will be greatly reduced and you will see long branching roots that spread out to find water and nutrients. This is the type of root system I prefer. It ensures greater longevity, better drought resistance and better anchoring in my high wind area (I live smack bang in the path of the Roaring 40s). When they are grown 'softer', for want of a better term, then root competition will be 'less well mannered' and intense. The spreading roots will go further but are less likely to encounter other roots just based on the reduced number of roots.

In a pot, where water and nutrients are piled on (they have to be because the roots can't spread out) you will find a very dense mass of fine roots, until one finds that hole in the bottom of the pot and escapes into the ground whereby it will begin to flex its muscles and wreak havoc on the pot it is in. The multflora roots I pulled out were around 5cm in diametre in some places with the look of gum tree branches or the branches of some liana vines hanging from trees for Tarzan to swing on in the African jungle. You can easily see how plant roots can have some much strength they can split rocks.

In my soil, which is deep red soil, the roots tend to grow straight down and they can go as far as they want. Roses like clay-based soils and can get their roots down into it but if they are in a raised bed why would they?

So it's not really a straight forward answer (it never is LOL), but I hope this helps to clear it up a little.

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Post by MsMW on 27th November 2010, 13:46

They Like Clay based soils!!!!! my goodness that's an eye opener...in a good way....unfortunately i still don't think they would survive in the ground here with all the chinese elm root systems clumping the soil with their fine upper roots.
Thank you for this information i can see that it's complex yet your expertise wonderful and easily understood for this beginner.
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Post by Abbi on 28th November 2010, 21:23

I agree with MsMW. Simon, your information is always clear and easy to follow.

Here are a few that are flowering now, diverting my attention away from the ending of the iris season....how well the seasons for each flow on.

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AFTERNOON DELIGHT
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CROCUS ROSE

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ANGEL FACE
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GERANIUM MOYESII
You can already see the flagon shape of the hips below the new buds.

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Post by Abbi on 28th November 2010, 21:36

Can't resist posting a few more...... [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
BARON ROTHSCHILD
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CHARLES RENNIE MACKINTOSH
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CLIMBING GOLD BUNNY
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FISHERMANS FRIEND
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JANE McGRATH
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MOLINEUX

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Post by Abbi on 28th November 2010, 21:43

Here's a Treloar ring in. I ordered five Ballerinas as aprt of a hedge, where i've alternated ballerinas with five Leonardo da Vincis. The first " Ballerina" to flower is misnamed! Nice rose though. HT, not even a floribunda. Leaves way bigger than Ballerina.

I had a ring in last year too. How do they make so many mistakes?

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They're very good about sending a replacement the following season.

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Post by orchid40 on 28th November 2010, 22:01

Beautiful blooms, Abbi.
Fisherman's Friend is a gorgeous red!

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Post by Admin on 28th November 2010, 22:06

Hey Abbi,

Great photos Abbi! You know, the worst misnamed rose I ever received was a REAL eye opener. It was a S****s rose bought at a local hardware store as 'Angel Face'. I tended it for two years before it gave me a flower and when it did.... it was bloody 'Dr Huey' and get this it was a budded 'Dr Huey' on a 'Dr Huey' rootstock!!!! You have to wonder what goes on when a rootstock can be grafted onto a rootstock. And to top it off it was virused too Loopy

Got any photos of the little ones I sent you? 'Violette' should be flowering now Smile

Can you take another photo of that Jane McGrath leaf with all the yellow markings on it?

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Post by Abbi on 28th November 2010, 23:47

Val, Fishermans Friend is a particularly lovely colour. Deep and velvety.

Yes, Simon, I noticed a few flowers on Violette today. She's quite big now, i'll take pics tomorrow.

Phyllis Bide put on a nice early show, before the possum noticed her.

The Mutabilis you sent had a flower earlier.

The yellow on Jane McGrath does look like mosaic virus doesn't it? One of the freebies this year has a very bad case. Will it spread to healthy plants?

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Post by MsMW on 29th November 2010, 07:04

Gorgeous Pic Abbi,
I'm in awe!!!! The Jane McGraw they are heavily selling or promoting at bunnings. Your photos make it look very pretty.
In fact all your blooms look stunning...I've just come in from misting undersides of rose leaves as instructed to be rid of the bug that cases webbing and distruction to leaves. I hope it works.
I'm tempted to go get hardcore 'chemicals' to be rid of them however will see how misting underleaves goes first.
Well done again on beautiful blooms...sigh I can smell them from here ur roses

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Post by Admin on 29th November 2010, 17:59

No, Abbi, it won't... thank goodness... I just think that the McGrath Foundation wouldn't be very happy to see this.. "let's try and raise awareness of a disease by using diseased roses" Rolling Eyes


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Post by Abbi on 29th November 2010, 23:06

Thanks for your nice comments MsMW.

Simon, I see what you mean about the rose disease, on that particular rose.

Here's a pic of a leaf from "Troilus". is this mosaic?


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Post by Abbi on 29th November 2010, 23:10

Simon, you asked about "Violette". She's about a metre tall, several canes, and here's the flower. The leaves are a bit yellow, so I'll try iron chelates. She's had some sudden impact and seamungus.

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Post by Admin on 30th November 2010, 00:19

Don't know if that is RMV Abbi... A few if DA's roses do some funny things. Mary Rose gets markings like this too... and so do her seedlings. RMV has not been shown to pass on through the seed so I'm thinking it may be A virus but not sure whether it is RMV or not???

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