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'Baxter Beauty'... who bred/discovered it REALLY??? AND Agnes Barclay... a HT???

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'Baxter Beauty'... who bred/discovered it REALLY??? AND Agnes Barclay... a HT???

Post by Admin on 20th September 2010, 20:09

'Man of Roses' says that 'Baxter Beauty' was a sport of 'Lorraine Lee' and lists it as one of Alister Clark's roses. HMF lists it as being discovered by Russell Grimwade. Numerous references on HMF say both of these things... just wondering which is right???

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Why is 'Agnes Barclay' listed as a HT when it doesn't have any HT in it??????

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Re: 'Baxter Beauty'... who bred/discovered it REALLY??? AND Agnes Barclay... a HT???

Post by Guest on 20th September 2010, 21:23

The Agnes Barclay in circulation is a found rose, which is why I've labelled it "Upper Beaconsfield' at Renmark. It was also collected at Alexandra opposite the post office. I think Alister Clark wasn't sure of the parentage. If it's as stated (Comtesse Dusy, Tea, x Crepuscule, Tea-Noisette) it should be Tea. The one in commerce (and I'm not saying it's incorrect, it might be what Clark bred) grows & looks more like a polyantha, with colouring that would fit with Crepuscule in the ancestry.
Someone did some research that suggested about 15% of roses don't have the parentage stated (like humans in San Francisco). Errant bees etc.

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Post by Admin on 20th September 2010, 21:30

I guess... it's just funny though that he would call it something that it isn't.. I guess if I was unsure of the parentage I'd say x unknown to avoid speculation Dunno

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Re: 'Baxter Beauty'... who bred/discovered it REALLY??? AND Agnes Barclay... a HT???

Post by Balinbear on 20th October 2011, 20:43

I am chasing a Baxter Beauty. We had one a few years ago but we shifted it just before it rained (a lot) and it did not survive.

Does anyone know if anyone sells it.
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Post by Guest on 20th October 2011, 21:40

The one at Renmark is big enough for budwood if you can't find a seller - but we'd have to tag the branch that's reverting to Lorraine Lee! My plant is small yet.

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Post by Balinbear on 20th October 2011, 23:46

Thanks Margaret. I'll see what I can do.
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