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Post by Admin on 15th August 2010, 17:58

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These are some seedlings just up now... chloritic ones will eventually just die. The seedling with 5 cotyledons might survive but probably will not amount to much.

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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 19th August 2010, 06:21

Simon what are the seedlings of please if you know.
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Post by Admin on 19th August 2010, 17:11

1 & 3 is OP Many Happy Returns, 2 is Wild Rover x one of my eaten labels (I lost almost all labels this season to slugs eating them). Last one is an OP Temple Bells.

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Post by The Estate on 19th August 2010, 21:31

cool pics going on there Shocked
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Post by OzRose on 19th August 2010, 23:58

Albinism in roses or has that frankenrosen been wandering your rose patch at night ? Hmmmm

Seriously though , how long would that little top seedling last with no chlorophyll do you think ? You might start a new trend producing roses with variegated foliage .

One of my Soaring Spirits seedlings succumbed this week . I potted them on a wee while back and they have all been looking great but one looked crook this week and that was it . Damping off I think, but if they are going to be touchy it's best that they cark it early as they won't get too much spraying and pampering here ; it's a bit like bootcamp for rose bushes.

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Post by Bemo on 20th August 2010, 02:15

Simon,
I believe you can throw the pales away pale I had also never success with seedlings with more than 2 'coties'.

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Post by Admin on 20th August 2010, 19:32

Yep... they are chuckers... they will only live until all the nutriet has been absobed out of the cotyledons and then, when they are on their own, they will eventually die. I've had multi-cotyledons survive before but they've never been very thrifty.

Boot camp for rose bushes is exactly how they should be tested... apartr from feeding... good feedling is essential to see the best of each seedling.

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Post by OzRose on 21st August 2010, 00:24

How often and what do you feed your seedlings Simon? I'm using alternate phostrogen and seasol at half strength weekly , no special brew for roses , just the same that I give my veg and other seedlings , even the natives.

What causes the extra cotyledon thingo ? is it a genetic thing or is it like an incomplete splitting of an embryo so you've got sort of a plant siamese twin.
I know the tomato chaps comment on it from time to time .

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Post by Admin on 21st August 2010, 16:17

I keep a watering can in my little greenhouse and have a half strength mix of Charlie Carp that I water the seedlings with every time I water, right from when they first appear until I plant them in the ground. You don't want anything too rich (like Miracle Grow) because it can actually cause things like nitrogen toxicity. The Charlie Carp is good because it's not too strong to start with and is easy on the seedlings (and the more we use the more carp we get rid of). When they are about 10cm tall I will also use the Osmocote for roses mixed into the mix and some dynamic lifter on the surface of the pots.

The multi cotyledon thing could be due to genetics or just an error that has occured at some point in the development of the seedling. It doesn't happen very often for me. Most I've had up till now was three cotyledons... this one smashed that record out of the park.

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