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Re: 'heather roses' 2010

Post by Dave on 21st July 2010, 09:21

Thanks Bemo. I love singles and stamens!
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Re: 'heather roses' 2010

Post by Admin on 21st July 2010, 15:40

It's very much like 'Dainty Bess' isn't it?

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Post by Bemo on 21st July 2010, 19:03

indeed, maybe the stamens of 'DB' are a little bit longer. It's a nice surprise again. Let's see how this plant will develope Rolling Eyes ...but it's still working in the garden Very Happy
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To be honest, the motherplant has been a little bit underestimated by the breeder silent

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Post by Bemo on 21st July 2010, 20:11

Bemo wrote:
......I've never expected a white rose from this plant, as all before showed pink tones...

I'm so stupid.... did no study the ancestors of Bonica. The seed parent 'Rosa sempervirens L. × Mademoiselle Marthe Carron' are both white Duh

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Post by Admin on 21st July 2010, 22:30

Yeah... but white is strange 'colour' in roses Bernhard. It's like a masking colour, like a coloured rose in a white coat. Gennetically they breed like the coloured rose but have another gene (or set of genes) that over rule these and prevent the expression of any pigment. That's what's happening with 'Iceberg'.... it's a coloured rose under all that white. So this is interesting... whites bred 'Bonica' which is pink but not all whites are like this... must be carrying this masking gene... to have it come out again now... or something like that Rolling Eyes


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Post by Bemo on 24th July 2010, 02:26

this one is not a weeping rose:

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It is a seedling of 'Westerland' from 2009 (maybe you remember). The shrub is now about >1m and showing now the first bud. I will also show the flourishing....

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Re: 'heather roses' 2010

Post by OzRose on 24th July 2010, 09:14

Snap! Simon . Dainty Bess was the first thing that sprung to my mind . Used to have her in my former rose garden.

Bemo wrote:
.... To be honest, the motherplant has been a little bit underestimated by the breeder silent

Well if you were looking for one that sets hips very freely , it's a goodie .
I leave all my late hips on my roses as they are source of food for the birds in winter . My Bonica is a little standard in a tub and it's not unusual to walk out and find a couple of clonky great 28's sitting on the bush having a feed .
They are pretty messy eaters and they drop seeds which come up under the mother plant all the time. I have some potted up atm.

Don't quite understand about the masking gene bit Simon . Is the white gene recessive then , like the gene for blue eyes in humans ? which can lurk in a brown eyed parent or is it the dominant one . [ my brain is a bit slow this morning Embarassed ]

Like the pic of the weeping rose B ; you could call it Teardrop if it ever gets to the point where it needs a name.
Your little red flower reminds me of the seedlings that used to come up like weeds under a friend's Lili Marlene bushes.

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Post by Ozeboy on 24th July 2010, 17:07

Well done Bemo, those seedlings have great potential and can only improve as they mature. Great blooms for young seedlings.

I like the leaves, do you use an oil spray or wipe them as they look so healthy which usually comes from using white oil or similar.

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Post by Bemo on 24th July 2010, 22:07

Rosalie,
don't be confused. Here is an other white seedling of 'Bonica'. It's possible that it owns the red colours, due to the presence of cyanidin, anthocyanidin, but fact is that we see White. So we speek always about the result of our sense. And that's very easy at the end Shocked

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this one grows very strong, got some wichurana genes with Very Happy

the young bloom shows also a little bit cream:
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Bruce,
my roses have only been sprayed in the spring with an own brewed tea from field horsetail, This works great (this year)
Witch Doctor
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Post by Bemo on 24th July 2010, 22:53

there is some remaining pink in the close up of the white 'Bonica' seedling:

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looks like in the case of 'WC' Hmmmm

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Post by Admin on 24th July 2010, 23:24

Bernhard.. I think that cream colour in roses is the most beautiful colour... I like it a lot Thumbsup

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Re: 'heather roses' 2010

Post by Guest on 25th July 2010, 17:56

Great photos of excellent looking seedlings Bemo. Tips me \'at to ya

I'm with Simon re cream coloured roses...there is just something about them!

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Re: 'heather roses' 2010

Post by Bemo on 28th July 2010, 17:53

thank you for examining Very Happy

the first flower of the 'Westerland' seedling is now ready, has no persica blood.

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could still breed with it.

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Re: 'heather roses' 2010

Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 29th July 2010, 05:55

Bernhard, that is a brilliant rose, Some singles I do not like, this one just has what I like and the colour is to die for. Hope this one can go further in life Thumbsup
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Re: 'heather roses' 2010

Post by Guest on 1st August 2010, 17:14

Very nice Bemo...I like it very much actually! Thumbsup

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Re: 'heather roses' 2010

Post by Bemo on 23rd August 2010, 03:42

GDay Rosarians, again 'Mittsommermärchen'
as Simon wanted to see a so called 'whole body pic':

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unfortunately this rose seems (this year) to be once blooming ?, but im still full of hope, because big shrubs and climbers needs often a longer period to become recurrent.

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Post by Admin on 28th August 2010, 21:22

As I've said elsewhere Bernhard... I really think this one is a winner Thumbsup

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Post by Bemo on 4th September 2010, 01:43

I did not (yet) show this one, which I will also keep until next year, hoping that the sensitivity to PM will go away.

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a lot of roses have been thrown away and some others, like the 'Rose de Resht' Seedlings, have not yet bloomed. This year, my seedlings and all other roses will get an extra portion of pottasium for better winter protection. I hope it will work and I can show the 1st flowers of the RdR crosses next year...

if not, there will be some others...


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Re: 'heather roses' 2010

Post by Dave on 4th September 2010, 07:08

Very nice, Bemo. Hope it's floriferous.

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Re: 'heather roses' 2010

Post by OzRose on 4th September 2010, 12:02

It's lovely to see a rose that can get to full blown and hold it's shape well for a few days.
That's when you truly get to appreciate it's beauty .

I hope your rose can overcome the PM problem Bemo.

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