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Poll about a new rose (hypothetical case)

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If a new rose variety came onto the market and it was only once flowering would you buy it?

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Poll about a new rose (hypothetical case)

Post by Simon on 11th May 2010, 10:24 pm

I'm not going to give too much information on this at the moment... instead I'll reveal the thinking behind this poll when it's done. Just think about the question, vote, and if you feel like it, add a reply with your point of view. I'm not going to vote on this until there are a number of votes so I don't sway the vote.

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Re: Poll about a new rose (hypothetical case)

Post by Ozeboy on 12th May 2010, 7:06 am

Simon, I have enough of those once flowering roses already.

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Re: Poll about a new rose (hypothetical case)

Post by roseman on 12th May 2010, 7:37 am

For me it would depend on a few things.
Colour and petal count
Possible fragrance
Growth habit
And last but not least, as we do not care for the roses we have and do not get the problems others get. But this has to be concidered, disease and pest problems.
Simon, how long is the quizz going for ?

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Re: Poll about a new rose (hypothetical case)

Post by Simon on 12th May 2010, 11:54 am

Just playing the Devil's Advocate here... What about if it was something like a new Moss rose, or a new Damask, or Gallica (assuming it grew well in your location... climate is not the issue here... just remontancy), that don't often repeat anyway...

Dave, I'm only referring to remontancy at the moment. If the plant was superior in all other regards, would you purchase a once-flowering new rose?

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Re: Poll about a new rose (hypothetical case)

Post by roseman on 13th May 2010, 7:24 am

The answer is "yes", colour would be a factor in final decission. So you can change my "maybe".
Simon, not sure about some of your answer, you talk about once flowering and also about "remotancy", is this not more than once flowering.

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Re: Poll about a new rose (hypothetical case)

Post by Simon on 13th May 2010, 5:16 pm

Remontancy is its ability to reflower... like a name given to the process. A repeat flowering rose is remontant. A non-repeat flowering rose is non-remontant.


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Re: Poll about a new rose (hypothetical case)

Post by Balinbear on 13th May 2010, 10:25 pm

I voted yes becuse If I like a flower and its desease resistance was good then lack of repeat flowering would not stop me.

I mean where would he world be if nobody had purchased roses such as Alberine. My Blanche Fluer leaves any Iceburg for dead when it flowers but that is only once a year (actually it is more like once a coupleof years for a good display so it lives happily(or should I say it did until I shifted it lst year and it is taking a little bit to re-establish itself) amoungst the Teas and ither plants.

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Re: Poll about a new rose (hypothetical case)

Post by Simon on 13th May 2010, 11:24 pm

Personally Gary, I totally agree... There is a motive behind my poll but I don't want to give anything away just yet... it will be followed by another poll maybe.

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Re: Poll about a new rose (hypothetical case)

Post by Carole on 14th May 2010, 7:29 pm

Simon I have cast my vote and I have read the above posts.
Your question was once flowering and that is how I cast my vote. We have a fantastic constance Spry, a pink rambler and a few other old roses that are only once flowering. These we like others I may not like.
What has got me confused is how you got round to romotancy as this means repeat flowering and was not mentioned in Davids post, unless I am reading wrongly.

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Re: Poll about a new rose (hypothetical case)

Post by Simon on 14th May 2010, 7:51 pm

roseman wrote:you talk about once flowering and also about "remotancy", is this not more than once flowering.
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This is what Dave wrote that I was responding to.

Remontancy is the ability to reflower. A rose that can reflower is remontant. A rose that flowers only once is non-remontant.

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Re: Poll about a new rose (hypothetical case)

Post by Dave on 15th May 2010, 8:22 am

If it was a good one for my climate, absolutely. Once-blooming Albertine, for example, is one of the most popular roses in the world. Tulips only bloom once a year, but what a show.

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Re: Poll about a new rose (hypothetical case)

Post by roseman on 15th May 2010, 9:20 am

Simon, I must be misssing something here. Your question is,
If a new rose variety came onto the market and it was only once flowering would you buy it?
Your post on Wed mentions "remotancy". Then your post on Thur explains once flowering and repeat flowering(remotant), I understand the difference between the two. I am only confused about the remotancy if this is one of the things that this flower is to do, so how can it be once flowering scratch .
I had to write this in it's form as I can not remember how to do the "quote" thing.

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Re: Poll about a new rose (hypothetical case)

Post by Simon on 15th May 2010, 10:54 am

If a rose flowers once, I would describe its remontancy as non-remontant.


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Re: Poll about a new rose (hypothetical case)

Post by Guest on 15th May 2010, 11:15 am

I would buy some of Paul Barden's old-style roses, eg Marianne, if they were imported. But in general no, because there are more once-flowering heritage roses and foundlings than I have room for.

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Re: Poll about a new rose (hypothetical case)

Post by roseman on 16th May 2010, 7:41 am

Simon how did "remotancy" get into your answer when we are talking once flowering, can you explain please or is this part of telling us later bit scratch

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