'Australian Beauty'

MVH and "Adam" both set hips readily.

I am going to try to get some seeds going again from one of these.

Something ate the 6 or so that I had. Thye were about 3 cm tall and I checked them one arvo and the next morning they were all gone apart from a couple of stems.

The next question I wanted to ask was has the real 'Adam' ever been here? I wonder which one was the seed parent of 'Australian Beauty'? I guess I should have made myself more clear as well in that I was more blaming the susceptibility to mildew on the Tea blood (in general) and not "Adam" specifically given a lot of the Teas I have seem also to be prone to mildew (the only one that isn't so far is 'Monsier Tillier'... another can of worms rose LOL... 'Souv. de MME Leonie Viennot' and even gigantea itself get a little mildew here but are next in line in terms of resitance to mildew. 'Comtesse de Labarth', 'Sir Francis Xavier', 'Francis Dubreuil' NOT, 'Lorraine Lee', 'Rosa Indicia Major', 'Lamarque', and 'Safrano' all seem quite susceptible... I've included Teas, Noisettes together. Crepuscule and 'Lady Huntingfield' seem quite immune to both mildew and black spot here. "Adam" and 'Marie Van Houtte' have just arrived and don't have leaves yet so ask me about them again this time next year). In this respect I don't think it matters much whether its seed parent was 'Adam', "Adam", 'MME Berard', or 'The President'... the outcome may have been similar. What I am more interested in is whether AB takes after the Tea side or the HP side because it gives me an idea as to how the Tea traits seem to be passed on from "Adam" in this cross. Judging by AB's reputation of being prone to mildew and that it is a climber like "Adam" is I would say the Tea traits feature prominently in this case... this is a good thing as it is these feature I think we should be trying to retain in any breeding program involving Teas. If Wal Johnston said it was prone the black spot I would have assumed it was probably from the HP side of the family.

Hi Simon, I still want to try it up here in Sydney. I get Powdery Mildew on roses I have on a south wall but all other positions are OK.

Would still like to have it and form my own conclusions.

Look at Souvenir de Claudius Pernet where everyone suggested it was a Blackspot Magnet. It is flowering so well at present and it's Autumn blooms are 3 shades deeper yellow. A very nice yellow HT rose that doesn't deserve the less than favourable reputation.

Would you please ask the guy to mail direct to me if you don't want to bother with it. Will Email my address direct to you if you don't have it.

Please let me also have details regarding costs so I can send direct or to you.

Bruce

Update, Australian Beauty wood was very old but have one ownroot (Early Days) shooting and another calloused and just planted.

There is one minute bud on Multiflora at a stand still making 3 posabilities in all.

All the ownroot roses I have propagated here were duds except for New Dawn, Albertine and Cecile Brunner. Most of the Tea's did not grow well on their ownroots. I expect we are asking too much from all the varieties of roses to do well in the large variety of soils in Australia. The same can be said of Multiflora and other different roses used as rootstock.
Have heard Multiflora doesn't like acid soil however I have had roses on Multiflora surrounded by Kikuyu that is growing yellow because the PH is around 3. So the search for the perfect propagation method goes on but somehow I think it is down the back with the Le'prechauns.

Multiflora loves acid soils... that's what does well down here on pH 5.5. It's Dr Phooey hates acidic soil.

I had one 'Australian Beauty' cutting fail, one look to have taken and is sprouting, and one that started to fail which was recut and started again.

I had a look in the igloo last week (near Renmark), and I think all our Aus Beauty cuttings are failing. One of the very few from this winter's batch.

Bruce, how did your Australian Beauty cuttings go? I have one going that is flowering now. It's not big enough to take cuttings from yet but will be next year.

Simon all the cuttings failed, I never have great success with old cuttings covered in scale. Upon looking over the cuttings when they arrived I put a bud about 1/4 the size of a normal bud on Multiflora as described in my previous post. The shoot and cane that grew from this is very thin though has managed to produce 2 or 3 blooms. Will wait and see what developes.
I have a good rose friend who just recently told me she has a new plant in an 8" pot . Will keep in touch with her and see if her plant makes some normal size buds. Failing that will get back to you for a couple of normal size buds.

I am sure the caretaker who selected the wood gave us the best he could as he apologised mentioning there had been very little growth that year.

Regards the understocks, have heard a multitude of different reports so I tend to propagate the easiest to grow. I can bud multiflora 365 days of the year in Sydney so that is an attraction.

Just had a call from a guy in SA who bought roses from me last season and has been delighted with the growth. He recons they are better than any of the roses he bought elsewhere. He proceeded to go through a lot of nurseries he bought from. Would appear Chip budding on Multiflora produces a good result in SA, WA, Vic, NSW and Qld. so why change.
How's your Don Juan going? That's a good experiment as the tape was left on for 3 to 4 years with the soil hilled up over the tape and bud.

Everyone likes young Multiflora understocks, particularly the rabbits.

Well I would be interested in seeing how roses perform on the multiflora here.
Fortuniana is dismal in my books though recommended for W.A .
Multiflora failed miserably in the sandy soils of my mum's garden in Gosnells but I have long forsaken that dismal coastal sandplain .
Ol' Dr Huey is delivering despite our bore water testing in the 5's range so I would be very interested to see the performance of Multiflora if that is supposed to cope with acidity better.

cheers. Rosalie

Bruce

The Graham Harts up up and going across the top of a 2.5metre high pergola so the multiflora does ok up here.

Gary

'Don Juan' is doing nicely. It only put out a foot long shoot before stoppping but this is normal for potted roses here. I had planned to liberate it over winter so the next few years will tell. It's always slower here and nights are getting down to 5 degrees here and days barely topping 20 so things are slowing down drastically already.

Simon, DJ is not a real fast grower which makes it an ideal climber for small gardens.

Ozrose, would you like some Multiflora cuttings to strike. There is a treatment plant at Flemington that charges $32.50 a batch to treat plants going to WA. Don't know the number of plants per batch though will inquire further if you are interested.

Simon they also treat plants for shipping to Tassie though they made mention there is extra treatment for the plants destined to WA.

Gary, that's good news, pleased Mrs Graham Hart likes staying with you in Qld married to Rosa Multiflora. Your Tea's for grafting haven't arrived yet.