Bruce's seedlings

I'll let Bruce add his coments on each one:

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Very nice Bruce.

Hello Neil, thanks for your interest, will try to remember all accurately.

No 1, 2, 3, are mostly OP seedlings from Gloire des Rosomanes, Remember Me HT, An unnamed Commercial type HT, Mr. Lincoln HT, Iceberg and another unnamed HT. They were an experiment and my first germination attempt based on Henry Kuskas methods. eg beach sand, peroxide water, Bromelain and cool red light in the fridge etc. G des R is a very fertile mother plant so more than 75% were from her. I'm sorry now that I didn't keep them seperate to know exactly from where they were bred.

The seeds were placed in the fridge beginning of June 2008 and placed on a window shelf August 2008 for germination. Upon germination they were put into Jiffy Pots ( Compressed peat pots ) then hardened off and placed in 5" pots outside with overhead protection. Winter 2009 they were wintered outside with no protection ( Possibly 12 light frost nights)
The pix was taken December 2009.

No 4 is a climbing Souvenir de Wootton budded April 2009 on 2 year old Multiflora. The bud was activated mid August 2009 and the pix was taken December 2009. Potting mix is recycled Hydroponic tomato mix.

No 5 is a batch of about 200 assorted HT budded April 2009 on 3 month old Multiflora. Buds were activated September 2009 and pix taken end of November 2009. Potting mix is cheapest bulk with no fertiliser added.
Note the difference in the growth due mainly to older rootstock, larger climber rose and hydroponic nutrients.

Hope this answers your questions.

What's the flower like on the climber Bruce?

Red Cupped to Globular shape. There is a good pix of the climber on HMF. I also have Souvenir de Wootton bush plants.

I do have a large selection of young plants but my computer skills have not kept up with propagation.

Nice big ruffled flowers...

I also reckon that the nice apricot coloured seedling's flower will continue to improve over the coming years. I'd be putting this one in the ground this winter to see what it can do. I really like 'Gloire des Rosomanes' as a parent. I'd like to use it myself a bit one day.

Thanks, good info. I liked the idea of red light myself but since I take the lazy way and after having hips on more than one plant with seeds coming out the top I figured they already had their red light. Advanced trait? Cheers

Neil, budding is a worthwhile skill I am still learning after 15 years.

In Australia we use Multiflora rootstock at various ages. I am still experimenting with budding onto it when it is 3 months, 1 year, two years and 3 years old. The growth from a bud on 3 year old rootstock has to be seen to be believed. I have an idea that budding new seedlings onto 2 and 3 year rootstocks will bring forward the maturity so one can see the end result well before it can be achieved if left as seedlings.

Would suggest you find a commercial budder in your area that is willing to pass on the skills.

Simon, thanks for the suggestion to put these in the ground which I will do this month now the very hot weather has passed. I have learn't a lot from
this rose Hybridising section of the forum and before that from Henry's papers. It's nice to show you some of the results.

Bruce,
your small batch od assorted HT's ( No5) seems to be larger as you mentioned. I would believe that's more than 300 ?

enormous

keep on breeding
Bernhard

better

Bemo, I think there was close to 700 but the old memory is letting me down a lot lately. Tend to remember things that happened when younger but sometimes forget what I did this morning.

The classic is when doing a building job I need materials or tools and walk down to where they are and then forget what I came to the shed for.

Never mind you won't miss out, your turn is coming.

Ozeboy wrote:.....The classic is when doing a building job I need materials or tools and walk down to where they are and then forget what I came to the shed for.
Never mind you won't miss out, your turn is coming.

sometimes still there I never go shopping without purchasing list...... and a lot of younger people have even greater dropouts.