Re: 'Madame Isaac Pereire'

by Ozeboy on 11th October 2009, 7:55 am

Simon, that's the sort of growth I am getting here with the Tea's, quite incredible. I cut the first growth from the bud off at around 2ft and now have the second side shoot above the top of a 2ft stake. I just had to use bamboo stakes to stop them from breaking off.

I get the best results by budding late March and activating them in spring around mid August. Before retirement I used to plant Multiflora sticks in Christmas holidays and bud over Easter or a weekend in April.
Budding in spring (November) and activating 6 to 8 weeks later has never produced the growth of autumn budded roses for me.
No I don't T bud, might be faster but there are better methods I have found.

by rosemeadow on 13th October 2009, 11:40 pm

Hi Pam, I look forward to seeing your photos.
I am busy too weeding and mulching my already established gardens, so I can take some photos when my roses are in full bloom.
Simon, can you take a photo of your R. gigantea when it blooms, please ?
Although I might have a bloom in the near future, as Bruce gave me a plant of this rose !
I have seen Bruce's young grafted Teas, they are full steam ahead with growth.

by Simon on 14th October 2009, 8:27 pm

No worries Karen. This is the first time I will have gigantea flowering here so I'm going to document its first flower anyway. Normally I would pinch the first flower of a newly grafted rose off to allow the plant to channel the energy into growing instead of flowering. This plant, however, is budded onto a very strongly growing multiflora plant so has a massive system to drive it. I haven't removed it yet and I figured this is the reason why it is flowering and growing so strongly... it's being driven by a 3 year old root system on a plant that is 4ft x 4ft. I'll perform an aerial layer as the season goes on a bit instead of removing it totally as a cutting as I don't want to lose it. This first flower will be removed just as it opens (and has been photographed) so I can collect the pollen.

by Billndee on 16th October 2009, 10:17 pm

Ozeboy wrote:

I get the best results by budding late March and activating them in spring around mid August. Before retirement I used to plant Multiflora sticks in Christmas holidays and bud over Easter or a weekend in April.
Budding in spring (November) and activating 6 to 8 weeks later has never produced the growth of autumn budded roses for me.
No I don't T bud, might be faster but there are better methods I have found.

Hi Ozeboy, I would like to ask you a few Q's here.
If you don't T bud what do you do? i would like to use a method that gives me better results.
And what do you mean by "activate"? Chop the head off the rootstock?