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Post by orchid40 on 21st August 2009, 10:14

Carole your rain is here. Simon must have put the wrong address on it.
It has also brought gale force winds Sad

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Post by Carole on 21st August 2009, 18:29

Val since I know that you are a good and honest person I am sure that will post my rain up to me and so that you can get your washing dry I insist that with my complements you keep the gale force winds. Innocent
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Post by Admin on 21st August 2009, 19:40

No no... you must have someone else's rain Val.... the rain I'm sending to Carole has been sent by snail mail... it's going so slowly it's STILL here! It rained so hard here today... our steps were waterfalls... another bloody job to do on ANOTHER rainy weekend >8@

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Post by Carole on 22nd August 2009, 19:11

I am watching out for the postman Simon >8@
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Post by orchid40 on 22nd August 2009, 21:29

Well I don't know where ours came from and now I don't know where it's gone. The winds are still here Carole thanks. Got my washing dry today Smile

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Post by Carole on 22nd August 2009, 22:29

Any time Val Dance We got 2 mls of rain Gold Star Rating We are now waiting for the rest to be delivered scratch
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Post by Dave on 24th August 2009, 12:09

No rain here either, and it's 25 deg today:(

My seedlings have started germinating. So far 2 of Scepter'd Isle x Louise Odier and one of Scepter'd Isle x Sydney Linton. All parents do well here. Louise is covered in blooms at the moment!
Now I'll try and post a pic of one of last year's seedlings. Warning: this may not happen:)

It's a very vigorous plant, still in a pot and has started flowering in the
greenhouse. Label has been lost. Smells of sweet myrrh so probably a DA was involved. Quite pretty tints. I like the upright petals in the centre and the yellow stamens.
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Post by Admin on 24th August 2009, 22:51

rosemeadow wrote:So the rose seedlings find it easy to push through the perlite ?

Yep Thumbsup

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Post by orchid40 on 25th August 2009, 19:52

That's a very pretty little rose Dave, I like it a lot.

I think I'll have to start this growing from seeds business, it looks fascinating!

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Post by Carole on 25th August 2009, 23:49

Simon, is that perlite only in your box? I have a couple of small seedlings from the multiflora you sent us come through only yesterday. My OP pollinated Heritage seedlings are moving now and I have put them in my Cubby House (green house)on the propagation bench so they have bottom heat and misters.
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Post by Admin on 26th August 2009, 00:07

Hi Carole, It's a good quality potting mix covered with about 1cm of perlite. I mixed osmocote through the mix as well. Mix is about 20cm deep.

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Post by Dave on 26th August 2009, 06:10

Simon you have great germination rates! Are those OP seedlings or hand pollinated?
Carole you'll have so much fun in your cubby house. Mist and bottom heat - every gardeners dream!
I love my plastic tunnel. Grow everything from salad greens to roses all winter.

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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 26th August 2009, 06:26

Simon, any chance of a brand of mix or a pic of it to see the size of the particles in it.

Dave, what do you use to raise your seeds if you do not mind telling us.

The next thing is getting the mist and heat right in her cubby house.
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Post by Dave on 26th August 2009, 08:19

I use seed raising mix with cocopeat and perlite. I want to try Simon's idea of the perlite on top.

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Post by Admin on 26th August 2009, 17:32

These are OP seedlings from roses I am testing germinability off that I'd like to use this year in planned crosses. The ones against the far end are OP 'Sweet Chariot'. The rest are a striped roses, an HT called 'Papageno'. These are destined for crosses with lots of things such as the Teas, bracteata, rugosa, and wichurana.

David... I'll have to check the name of the potting mix when I go and get some more. I threw the bag away. It was made with composted seaweed instead of barks so I am hoping it wil be packed with trace elements. Eco something I think???

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Post by Admin on 26th August 2009, 22:07

Carole wrote:I have a couple of small seedlings from the multiflora you sent us come through only yesterday

These multiflora seeds were my first seeds to germinate this year. They have shown an excellent germination rate of greater than 50%. I'll be sure to have plenty to choose from to select the best understock I can. Did I send you the pink ones, the white ones, or both? Both have been very easy to germinate and both make excellent rootstocks and both are thornless so you should get some good understocks as well as some pretty garden plants. With mine, I'm going to start thinning them out a bit so that they have more room to spread and I can start selecting the strongest growers. With any luck I'll only have one or two of them left, out of about 100 so far, after 6 months or so. I would thoroughly recommend using them both in deliberate crosses down the track too but don't be in too much of a hurry for them to bloom. These could take 2 or more years to flower given they are near-species hybrids (I say hybrids because I don't know what the pollen parent is... it could be selfed or it could be some mongrel-bred HT Rolling Eyes ).

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Post by Admin on 26th August 2009, 22:09

orchid40 wrote:I think I'll have to start this growing from seeds business, it looks fascinating!

I think you should too Val... but be warned... it's MORE addictive than the roses themselves!

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Post by Admin on 26th August 2009, 22:15

Dave wrote:I want to try Simon's idea of the perlite on top.

Hey Dave, Paul Barden talks about the perlite covering on his website and is where I got the idea from. He said the perlite seems to act like a physical barrier against fungal diseases and since switching to using perlite over his seeds he has stopped spraying against damping off complelely. I haven't seen any evidence of such fungi on my seedlings since switching to it either though I still spray them prophylactically with a dilute solution of Mancozeb because we seem to have every fungus known and unknown to man here and I have them in a small greenhouse that gets very humid (I've got the doors open at the moment to try and increase air circulation).


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Post by orchid40 on 26th August 2009, 22:16

Simon wrote:
orchid40 wrote:I think I'll have to start this growing from seeds business, it looks fascinating!

I think you should too Val... but be warned... it's MORE addictive than the roses themselves!

Oh Dear!

But will it stop me buying new roses though?

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Post by Admin on 26th August 2009, 22:24

Nope - you'll want to use new and better roses as parents and you will never look at a rose again and think.. gee that's a pretty rose. From then on you'll think... gee that's a pretty rose. I wonder if it sets hips? I wonder how healthy it is? I wonder if its fertile? What's its ploidy? roflmao You'll stock up on more old roses and species roses to try and make better Australian roses and you'll frequent places like RHA and start researching breeders like Mr Ralph Moore and thinking... I can do that... and then it's all over LOL

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Post by Carole on 26th August 2009, 23:07

NO Val it will not but it will give you an excuse to buy more Very Happy
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Post by rosemeadow on 26th August 2009, 23:15

Thanks for posting the photo Simon. I will definitely open the bag and use the Perlite tomorrow.

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Post by orchid40 on 27th August 2009, 19:51

Groan..................thanks Simon and Carole. I thought I could become normal again by redirecting my path with roses. Not so I fear.........................
I'm without hope.
lol! lol! lol!

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Post by Admin on 27th August 2009, 21:54

Who wants to be normal? Normal is boring Afro

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Post by orchid40 on 28th August 2009, 23:06

Simon wrote:Who wants to be normal? Normal is boring Afro

Actually --------------- what IS normal ???? LOL

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