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Finished harvesting seeds today...

Post by Admin on 10th June 2009, 22:56

I finished picking all the seeds from crosses made during the past season... and now getting ready to stratify... was going to put them all in the fridge but thought I'd leave it till the end of June instead... you guys up north can get in ahead of me... we are always a month behind you as far as roses go.

Am pretty excited about some of the crosses this year... they include:

'Scabrosa' x 'Black Jade' - got loads of seed from this cross
'Scabrosa' x 'Gold Coin' - got loads of seed from this cross
'Scabrosa' x 'Peace' - got loads of seed from this cross
'Scabrosa' x 'Magic Carrousel' - got a little seed
'Green Ice' x 'Rosa multiflora' - only got a single seed!
Maurice Utrillo x Rosa wichurana - got a little seed
Altissimo x Gold Coin - seeds huge... not many
Altissimo x PDR - seeds huge... not many
Altissimo x Flower Carpet: Amber... seeds huge... most of all the Altissimo crosses
Rosa Multiflora x Black Jade - got a little seed
Unknown old HT x Perfume Perfectiion - got a little seed
Unknown old HT - got a little seed

Note the above crosses are written as seed parent x pollen parent.

Then I have a truck load of OP seeds as well... husked about 200 op pollinated Maurice Utrillo seeds this afternoon... I'm taking Paul Bardens advice about test-germinating OP seeds from potential parents... I will probably bin most of them but they will give me an idea about how the seeds germinate (though this is also affected by the pollen parent), and if they turn out well they might provide a 'transition' variety towards a bigger goal. Oh yeah... and they also include seeds from hips that mysteriously end up in my pocket as we travel around the place Rolling Eyes Like OP Climbing 'Gold Bunny' LOL. I don't own 'Gold Bunny' so who kows HOW that one got in the bag What a Face

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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 10th June 2009, 23:59

It Jumped just like Carole's roses Very Happy
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Post by Admin on 11th June 2009, 00:11

So... Carole knicked her roses too huh roflmao

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Post by Admin on 11th June 2009, 00:15

Hmmmm.... changed my mind again... off to put them in the fridge RIGHT NOW... can always put them in the greenhouse to germinate and get the jump on spring.

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Post by Dave on 11th June 2009, 08:56

Just done the same, Simon. Have to get them all in the fridge before i leave next week. I'm testing lots of OP M. Tillier to see how they germinate, etc as I want to cross quite a few DA's with MT next spring.

What's in the fridge now:

Radio Times x D de B
Louise Odier x Sc Isle
Sydney Linton x Sc Isle
Chaucer x Seduction
A Darby x Maggie
GST x Maggie
Gruss an Aachen x Maggie
Eglantyne x Maggie

Good luck germinating, optimists all!
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Post by Bemo on 22nd June 2009, 00:43

Simon, as I have noticed now , you are possibly breeding also with 'Jacobs Krönung', saw your pic on HMF.
I Can tell you that my seedlings from the JK cross are very healthy. Either PM nor BS I have detected until now, although we had a cold snap, so called 'Schafskälte', the temps went below 10°C at night and most of the seedlings have reacted with an awfully PM infection.
here is one example of the healthy ones:

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I will wait for the flowers, even it needs years.

Hope you get great results with your crosses.

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Post by sueanne on 22nd June 2009, 09:38

my what great ideas you have here ,sorry I havent posted before,I have had seedling roses come up in my garden ,where there arent any other roses growing ,one is a lovely soft pink single /open flower ,
I wasnt sure where to put this post so thought I would butt in here hope its ok ,
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Post by Admin on 22nd June 2009, 17:22

Hi Suenanne,

I'd love to see pictures of your seedlings. I think I can vouch for almost every rose hybridiser in the world when I say that this is the way most people start. They hear that rose seeds can be germinated and that every seedling is unique and they noticed their own roses forming hips and then start to wonder... what if... and when the first unique flower opens the bug well and truly bites and next thing you know instead of looking through catalogues and thinking... ooooer that looks nice... you end up thinking oooooer... I bet I couold use that in my breeding program LOL and before you know it you end up with hundreds of roses bought in the name of hybridising Wink (that's what we tell our significant others anyway Wink ).

Bemo, the foliage on your seedling looks nice and healthy. Has it flowered for you yet and do you have any photos? I've not used the yellow flower carpet yet... and not sure if I will or not yet. I've got almost all the flower carpet roses and the yellow one seems to develop more black spot than the others and have a less desireable architecture so it would be really nice if your seedling was also yellow and had improved BS resistance and better form. I have used the amber one in crosses and have collected a whole swag of OP hips from the double red one and the original pink one to test germinability. The single dark red one is looking promising as a parent next season as is the white one. I've got Apple Blossom and was thinking about using it but it is a sport of the original one so I decided not to use it. I was thinking I might use the double red flower carpet on a tea like Monsier Tillier to try for smaller shrub forming roses with bigger flowers without compromising the twiggy nature of either of them (a real plus I think for shrubs). Looking forward to next season actually Smile


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Post by sueanne on 22nd June 2009, 20:29

thankyou simon for the encouraging words I will see if I can find a photo of them and post them for you to see ,
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