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Post by crlyn on 12th March 2016, 09:40

Hello all, I'm new to the forum, I'm hoping I can get some help with growing roses here on the Gold Coast. I grew roses in northern NSW for years without any problems, but not having too much luck here, black spot, mildew, winds, alkaline soil. Mad

Still intend trying though. Smile

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Post by neptune on 12th March 2016, 15:56

[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] Carolyn to  the Forum. The person who will be able to help you out the most is Gary (Balinbear) who is from your area ........
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Post by Barbara B on 12th March 2016, 16:26

Welcome to the forum.

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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 13th March 2016, 06:14

Welcome Carolyn,

Which style of rose are you thinking of growing ?

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Post by crlyn on 13th March 2016, 08:51

Thank you for the welcome, I grow Hybrid tea. I Had 15 roses, just removed 4, because either they were not doing anything, or I just couldn't control mildew no matter what I sprayed with. We have replaced soil, digging in horse manure and about to order another 6.

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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 14th March 2016, 05:53

Which six Carolyn ?
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Post by crlyn on 14th March 2016, 09:57

At the moment I'm still looking at my 6 choices with wonder. Rolling Eyes
Elina, The Childrens Rose, Summer Of Love, Perfume Passion, Baronne E De Rothschild, Eliza.

Opinions please would be greatly appreciated.    Smile

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Post by LouiseJB on 14th March 2016, 15:34

Hi Crlyn,
Welcome to the forum. I have The Children's Rose and Baronne E de Rothschild. Both are good growers especially The Children's Rose which gets to about 2m in my garden. It can also get quite wide so it needs a lot of room. It doesn't have a lot of thorns which is also a bonus. This time of year is perfect for fungal diseases to proliferate. I believe in trying to strengthen the plant to improve it's resistance to disease. Sulphate of potash helps to thicken the plant's cell walls to fight disease. It is available either in liquid or pellet form. Most supermarkets stock liquid potash.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Louise.

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Post by crlyn on 14th March 2016, 16:22

Thanks Louise, at least I know those two of my choices should be ok coming from another Queenslander. How often for the Sulphate of potash and how much? I gave them a handful in December.

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Post by Balinbear on 14th March 2016, 22:38

Hi Crlyn.

Queensland (and Australia in general) is deficient in Potassium and Potash is essential for healthy roses. As to the amount a handful or two a couple of times a year is good, however it does take sometime to increase the potassium level in the soil. The liquid form apparently works faster.

But is you are a bit of a lazy bugger like me you choose roses that suit the conditions. We grow teas, noisettes, hybrid Musks and Chinas and don't spray them at all. Yeah some of them suffer from Mildew in Spring but we put up with it. We are trying to increase the potassium levels in the soil but generally we do not do all that much to maintain the garden.

Generally we don't have any luck with Hybrid Teas or David Austins but we do know people who are prepared to spray etc and their plants look fine and produce lots of flowers but they are selective as to what varieties they plant.

The other issue of cause is the rootstock. A lot of roses are grown on rootstock that is not suitable for coastal Queensland. Multiflora is generally the best for up here. Own root roses also generally do better than plants on incompatible rootstock.

Gary

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Post by crlyn on 15th March 2016, 08:29

Thank you Garry, I'm sorry I'm not familiar with the roses you mention. Good information there.

Would you mind letting me know the nursery where to look for these or catalogue I maybe able to order.

I generally order from victoria.

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Post by Balinbear on 15th March 2016, 09:14

Generally we have not purchased all that many over the last couple of years. A good percentage of the ones we have in our garden have come from Mistydowns in Victoria with the odd splattering from others down that way.

Mistydowns mostly uses multiflora rootstock while others don't and we have seen a lot of roses struggle because of this.

One place you could try is Barton's Rose Farm out past Boonah. We dropped in there last year and they have a good selection of Hybrid Teas etc and bud onto multiflora (and some on Dr Huey). Roses were all healthy and a good size.
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Post by neptune on 1st April 2016, 23:16

Paul Hains has a book out called "Growing Roses in Sub Tropical Climates".

It would suit you to a tea, Crlyn....its all about growing roses up your way.......
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