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Re: Pruning Question

Post by Ausrose on 21st August 2014, 20:15

Rose budding, how to bud or graft a rose bush
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This video will teach you how to bud. What I suggest is you take cuttings from your prunings take a bud and graft it back onto your cutting. Do this numerous times as practice before you try budding onto rootstock.

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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 21st August 2014, 20:35

Good work Doug  Thumbsup , that will get Brett started till i dig more stuff up for him over the weekend
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Post by brettv68 on 22nd August 2014, 09:44

Thanks for the link Doug, Clap 

My main interest at the moment though is how to improve the bud union of roses to help get new basal shoots.

More rain today! Yippeeeee
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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 25th August 2014, 06:18

Brett, i ran out of time on the W/end, will post photo's tonight.
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Post by brettv68 on 25th August 2014, 09:39

Thanks David, Look forward to it.

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Re: Pruning Question

Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 26th August 2014, 07:48

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This is one that I used just to show what I was talking about, the shot below is of the tools of trade,
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The next couple of shots are of one cleaned up,

Brett, the system is playing up, so I will send next installment tonight,

Regards David.
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Post by brettv68 on 26th August 2014, 07:53

Thanks David, I appreciate your time and advice.

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Post by Ausrose on 26th August 2014, 17:55

I have a rose in a pot that I bought bare rooted in a Treloar Sale a couple of years back and it only has one cane and hasn't moved. When I get a chance I'll try your method David however I beginning to think there is some thing sinister going on underground.

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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 26th August 2014, 19:50

I would check the root system Doug, then look around the bud union.
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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 26th August 2014, 20:00

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The image above is not brilliant, but hopefully you will see how it has been brushed, there is also another below, then in the third is a bud that is the result of this procedure, I hope this helps Brett, I can't find the photo of your "poorly" rose with the single stem, could you repost it please.
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Brett, you have my contact details in an email sent the other day if you need further help, hope this is good enough to give you the idea.

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Post by brettv68 on 26th August 2014, 21:22

Thanks David,

A good result! Sorry no email. The bud union has definitely been an area that I have not focused on enough when maintaining my roses but I certainly will now. While this discussion has been on going I have gone around a number of my roses and given them the rub treatment. David I didn't post a photo of the single cane rose that got clobbered.

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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 26th August 2014, 21:46

I will resend Brett. I had thought you posted a single cane photo with a crack along it's length and tied with tape, I guess it was someone else, no problem.
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Post by brettv68 on 27th August 2014, 19:49

Hi David

This the rose that got clobbered and ended up with just one cane. The cane that was left was badly split and I took a chance and cut it back. I took your advice and gave the rose bud union a rub and a dose of seasol. This happened 10 days ago. Unfortunately I don't have any early photos but here are some photos taken this afternoon. Just maybe this rose will rise again??

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A small glimmer of hope is appearing!

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Look at the bottom left of the photo and the upper right two glimmers of hope!

David the rub might have helped somewhat. What do you think?

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Post by brettv68 on 27th August 2014, 20:19

Sorry for the number of posts but for some reason I couldn't get more than one photo per post even after resizing.

By the way the name of the rose is Best Friend! I bought it due to my love for my four legged mates so the rose means a lot to me.

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Post by brettv68 on 27th August 2014, 20:33

This is another rose that is in worse shape. Using what David has shown me and I have read I will try to improve this rose as well. May be a tough go but nothing ventured nothing gained. This before and gentle clean and rub.

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Post by brettv68 on 27th August 2014, 20:41

And this after! Now let's cross our fingers and see what happens. (yippee I posted all pictures in one post)

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Re: Pruning Question

Post by neptune on 27th August 2014, 21:47

Brett, did you know that for some strange reason that is beyond me, when you tie straps/wire/electrical ties around canes, the canes die. Just throwing that one out there........
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Re: Pruning Question

Post by Ausrose on 28th August 2014, 02:14

If Purple Tiger is a catholic rose you had better send for a priest. The rose in the first lot of photos should survive because of the two buds having poked through. To help with the development of these buds I would give it a liberal watering of a Seasol/Thrive solution.

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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 28th August 2014, 06:22

Well done on the photo's Brett, I thought I had seen the shot of a single stem.
Scale is one offender, that will not help the plant, it needs a spray, not sure what you have. I also do not like tags as John has already said, it happens to me at times as well.
In all the photo's it appears that half the cane is dead all the way down one side, is this right ? if so IMO I would cot the one stem back 25mm/1" at a time to find living wood, this might take you back to the bud union or just above.
As you have cleaned up the bud union, it is time to feed it and IMO a liquid feed as Doug mentions, I also would keep the "moisture" in the pot, up to it, not wet, but damp. Is the soil old or newish and does it drain ok ?. I know you are "not" supposed to over feed rose/plants, but I would feed it more often for a few weeks, but, reduce the amount of fertilizer per application
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Post by brettv68 on 28th August 2014, 09:56

neptune wrote:Brett, did you know that for some strange reason that is beyond me, when you tie straps/wire/electrical ties around canes, the canes die. Just throwing that one out there........

Hi Neptune,

It doesn't show it but the tie was loose but I take on board what your saying.

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Post by brettv68 on 28th August 2014, 10:00

Ausrose wrote:If Purple Tiger is a catholic rose you had better send for a priest. The rose in the first lot of photos should survive because of the two buds having poked through. To help with the development of these buds I would give it a liberal watering of a Seasol/Thrive solution.

Howdy Ausrose,

Lucky I have a priest living across the road. lol! Yes have been giving both roses a good drink of seasol and the rain has helped.
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Post by brettv68 on 28th August 2014, 10:02

roseman wrote:Well done on the photo's Brett, I thought I had seen the shot of a single stem.
Scale is one offender, that will not help the plant, it needs a spray, not sure what you have. I also do not like tags as John has already said, it happens to me at times as well.
In all the photo's it appears that half the cane is dead all the way down one side, is this right ? if so IMO I would cot the one stem back 25mm/1" at a time to find living wood, this might take you back to the bud union or just above.
As you have cleaned up the bud union, it is time to feed it and IMO a liquid feed as Doug mentions, I also would keep the "moisture" in the pot, up to it, not wet, but damp. Is the soil old or newish and does it drain ok ?. I know you are "not" supposed to over feed rose/plants, but I would feed it more often for a few weeks, but, reduce the amount of fertilizer per application
Will do David, I am hoping to see a little activity around the bud union and will progressively prune the cane back. The soil is new as I repotted it and it drains well.

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Re: Pruning Question

Post by SueH on 28th August 2014, 13:30

Just like to say "Well Done Brett!". 

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Post by brettv68 on 28th August 2014, 20:20

SueH wrote:Just like to say "Well Done Brett!". 
Thanks Sue! Credit to the forum really I just followed the dots.
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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 28th August 2014, 20:57

And Coopers help as overseer.
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