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Re: A rose to grow on a south facing verandah

Post by muscovyduckling on 2nd February 2014, 20:41

Me too Debbie! I had some hydrangea cuttings on the go but they fried Sad
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Post by Balinbear on 2nd February 2014, 22:40

Ausrose wrote:
If you have some spare time I would suggest you put some cuttings down the following way and see what happens.Place the cuttings as you described in coarse river sand about 10cm deep in a styrofoam box and place the box under a tree in dappled light and sprayed them with water twice a day during the hot weather.

I'm about to put some down in Western Sydney where the temps have been over 38 degrees centigrade for a record number of days and the forecast to continue.Despite the heat I am confident of a good success rate based on previous experience. The secret is to keep the sand moist and out of direct sun.

The humidity here consigns them to the "black Death"
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Post by Ausrose on 2nd February 2014, 23:06

If it is a humidity problem then perhaps dipping the cuttings in a fungicide such as Fongarid before planting might help.

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Post by rosebud on 3rd February 2014, 14:58

Balinbear - given the humidity issues up here, when/how/if do you do cuttings? I've had minimal success with cuttings since moving up here - very frustrating as the success rate for cuttings was reasonably good in Sydney.
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Post by Balinbear on 3rd February 2014, 15:17

Ausrose wrote:If it is a humidity problem then perhaps dipping the cuttings in a fungicide such as Fongarid before planting might help.

Yes I may try that. Generally if we do our cuttings in April they tend to do a lot better than later in the year.
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Post by Ozeboy on 5th February 2014, 19:06

Any of the Riethmuller Multiflora Hybrids will grow on a granite rock on the south side of a boulder.

These are the small flowered ones easy to pick as they look a lot like larger bloomed Multiflora's.

There are about 12,000 Multiflora hybrids listed on HMF so it has been a good choice for breeders.

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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 6th February 2014, 15:04

Hi Bruce.
A lot of the new people will not know Ozeboy the post above, he is back from "detention", he will poke his nose in now and again with some good tips, watch this space as they say. Here is the story about  Frank Riethmuller.

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Post by Ausrose on 6th February 2014, 16:13

A couple of years back I wrote an article on Reithmuller in the NSW Rose from material supplied by Eric Timewell who wrote the book Frank Reithmuller "Life and Roses".

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Post by Debbie G on 7th February 2014, 06:40

That's really interesting. I've heard of Reithmuller, but don't know a lot about him. My sister grew 'Honeyflow', but we were never much excited by it. Can you tell me the names of some of his multiflora hybrids. I've always liked what I've heard of Carabella, is that one, and has anyone grown it?

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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 7th February 2014, 06:50

How about this from HMF Debbie,
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Post by Debbie G on 7th February 2014, 07:37

Thanks David, I'll have to watch out for these. I still rather like Carabella.

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Post by Balinbear on 7th February 2014, 08:12

We used to have a hedge of them that was in the wrong place and it had to go. I grew cuttings of them(it strikes fairly easily) and they were put around the place but all eventually died. I am not too sure why.

They always grew well and flowered well but after a few years lost their vitality and passed away.

We purchased another one a couple of years back and it has virtually done nothing. It's almost to the point that I am going to toss it. We always have had trouble (slow growing and nearly always terrible plants) with roses from this particular nursery so I am not too sure what root stock the things on. I might try doing cuttings from it and see how it goes.
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Post by Debbie G on 7th February 2014, 09:52

There's a photo of a Carabella hedge on HMF, looks awesome!

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Post by rosebud on 7th February 2014, 21:43

A lot of the new people will not know Ozeboy the post above, he is back from "detention", he will poke his nose in now and again with some good tips, watch this space as they say. Here is the story about  Frank Riethmuller.

I'm a little curious ... how does one earn 'detention' on rosetalk?
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Post by neptune on 7th February 2014, 22:15

rosebud wrote:A lot of the new people will not know Ozeboy the post above, he is back from "detention", he will poke his nose in now and again with some good tips, watch this space as they say. Here is the story about  Frank Riethmuller.

I'm a little curious ... how does one earn 'detention' on rosetalk?

By not laughing at the Boss'es jokes.......very serious offence.... I don't think so! 
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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 8th February 2014, 07:12

neptune wrote:
rosebud wrote:A lot of the new people will not know Ozeboy the post above, he is back from "detention", he will poke his nose in now and again with some good tips, watch this space as they say. Here is the story about  Frank Riethmuller.

I'm a little curious ... how does one earn 'detention' on rosetalk?

By not laughing at the Boss'es jokes.......very serious offence.... I don't think so! 

Rosedud, he imposed "detention" on himself, not I, he had a stouch with another member, that's all.
It is past history and we will leave it as history I think.
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Post by Ozeboy on 8th February 2014, 13:32

No not back, I'm too busy keeping the Roo's out which have eaten just about everything. 50% of the roses have gone. Unfortunate as a lot were one off's propagated from all over Australia. What took years to develop has gone in 12 months.

I still have some satisfaction from propagating a lot of Gretchen's and Ruston's via Margaret and numerous others. Unfortunately a few of these have gone.

The good news is a secure fence has been built which keeps them out unless I leave the gate open.

The bad news is, I have run out of energy and won't be continuing with the nursery. Still have a few hundred Heritage in 8" pots. The good news is I'm going in for Miniatures.

To all those people out there and on the Forum that I have lost patience or disagreed with I apologise.
However I still have a short fuse and sure the Forum Members can settle back into their comfort zone knowing I'm not around to pounce.

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Post by rosebud on 8th February 2014, 19:38

Oh, Bruce - I am so sorry you have lost so much of your work. It must be very, very frustrating. The roses you sent me last winter are doing brilliantly and have adapted to the climate up here better than any of the others purchased elsewhere - your expertise with the teas etc will be surely missed.
All the best, Lillian

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Post by Ozeboy on 11th February 2014, 05:13

Lillian, I'm pleased your Tea's are doing well for you.
A couple of years back I had about 60 Tea's in 8" pot's along the front. These were spotted by another nursery and they took the lot. This gives one great satisfaction knowing Tea's are still readily accepted by gardeners when they are first class.
Unfortunately a lot of roses are held too long in pots which seems to set them back for life.

Another self satisfying Tea result was to breed a really good fragrant cream rose from 'Devonensis' (Tea) seed and 'CHEWfragbabe' pollen. It's fragrance is as good or better than it's seed parent.

My 'Devonensis' is about 15 years old but is still only about 1.5 meters tall so is a good one for smaller gardens

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Post by Balinbear on 11th February 2014, 21:17

Hi Bruce

Hope you going well and copping with the weather etc. The plants you sent up are doing well.

A couple of our Tea seedling are going well with the Mons Tillier Op and the Mme Lombard x Beauty of Glenhurst doing quite well. Also (my favourite) is a Boarderer OP that is exactly the same as its parent except it has red flowers. A Marie Van Houtte OP is also looking nice.

Look after yourself

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