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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 17th November 2013, 13:13

Paul, what does it say on the label about spraying
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Post by paulh on 17th November 2013, 13:52

Roseman it says nothing about temp or time of day to spray just says repay every 7 days
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Post by neptune on 17th November 2013, 14:02

Paul, if you spray in the day the chemical dries very quickly and leaves a heavy residue which will burn in the sun......that is why if you are going to spray , early in the morning(just as it gets light, eg 5am), or late in the day when sun is down......
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Post by paulh on 18th November 2013, 00:14

Well peoples, I took some photos of my plants foliage for your advice. The photo with the whole bush is Ebb Tide, I've inserted a photo of what the plant looked like 2 weeks ago. The other photo is a collection of plants with their ailments. So what advice can you give me.

The only things I've done differently is... I dug in banana peels, I've used worm juice, liquid Potash, 1 dose of Triforine, about 3 doses of Maldison. Application is always late in the day, around 5pm.

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Post by Ausrose on 18th November 2013, 15:15

Your problem looks very much like leaf burn to me. Although Ebb Tide's life appears to be ebbing away you may save it by giving it a regular dose of Seasol until the bush makes signs of a comeback.

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Post by maree on 18th November 2013, 19:50

I have burnt the leaves on my roses , on several occasions being too heavy handed with the foliar spraying , and just recently too with the Uplift Seaweed stuff , maybe less is better .....
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Post by paulh on 18th November 2013, 22:49

maree wrote:I have burnt the leaves on my roses , on several occasions being too heavy handed with the foliar spraying , and just recently too with the Uplift Seaweed  stuff , maybe less is better .....
Hmm, good thoughts maree, oh' what does one do
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Post by paulh on 18th November 2013, 22:52

Ausrose wrote:Your problem looks very much like leaf burn to me. Although Ebb Tide's life appears to be ebbing away you may save it by giving it a regular dose of Seasol until the bush makes signs of a comeback.
Ebbing away Ausrose what a great description, Ahh I just want to pull my hair out  
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Post by neptune on 18th November 2013, 23:31

your not being heavy handed on the loving, are you paul?
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Post by paulh on 18th November 2013, 23:53

neptune wrote:your not being heavy handed on the loving, are you paul?
I think I've been pretty constrained this year, I gave the a pellet feed in September and one a couple of weeks ago. I'm regular with the Seasol and worm juice, (now that could be an issue, I bottled the juice about 4 weeks ago and thats what I'm using now, I hope its not off, I do use Mallasas in the mix)

Now, when does one put aside their pride and admit to maybe having made a wrong calculation. Now re wettable sulphur, I may have made a dosage mistake some weeks ago. The label quoted so many grams to 10litres of water, however I feel that I did not recalculate the dosage when using my 5litre sprayer. It says 15grms to 10lt I may have done 15grms to 5 lts.  
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Post by neptune on 19th November 2013, 00:04

how are you using the molasses????....how much...how are you diluting....and why are you using it in the spray...etc...
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Post by paulh on 19th November 2013, 00:18

neptune wrote:how are you using the molasses????....how much...how are you diluting....and why are you using it in the spray...etc...
I use 3 tablespoons of Malasas to about 15lts of water and then mix up the castings and make the juice.
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Post by neptune on 19th November 2013, 00:26

you will probably find the molasses is sticking too much to the leaves as it doesn't evaporated and then it will burn them. The molasses is made to go directly to the ground as it helps with the microbes in the soil
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Post by paulh on 19th November 2013, 00:38

neptune wrote:you will probably find the molasses is sticking too much to the leaves as it doesn't evaporated and then it will burn them. The molasses is made to go directly to the ground as it helps with the microbes in the soil
Oh ok, so i should throw the rest out and start again
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Post by neptune on 19th November 2013, 00:52

stick it in the soil, or really liquefy it and put it on the lawn. First soil....leftover lawn
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Post by paulh on 19th November 2013, 01:07

neptune wrote:stick it in the soil, or really liquefy it and put it on the lawn. First soil....leftover lawn
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Post by Ausrose on 19th November 2013, 04:28

affraid Two points I would make Paul:-
1. Your over dosage of wetable sulphur could be contributing factor to your problem as one the first rules when spraying is to follow the recommended dosage instructions given by the manufacturer. From what you have said you made a calculating error and these happen from time to time and one just has to live with the consequences. Early in my days as a rosarian I made such a mistake calculating down that although it didn't it seem to affect my roses at the time it certainly affected my pocket until I realized
My error. Many years back I remember spraying my roses with a combination of wetable sulphur and Omite with the adverse effect of leaf burn. 
2. I was interested in the use of molasses as I have never heard of it being used on roses in any way. John makes a good point on its use with worm juice and it's possible effects and I would heed his advice. 

John with respect the use of molasses in the soil for the benefit of bacteria I would be interested to hear more information on it.


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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 19th November 2013, 06:44

Good point Doug, re, "Molasses" I see a new thread on this John, hope to read something at lunchtime, any links to it's use will also be handy.
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Post by neptune on 19th November 2013, 09:20

as you know, I like making teas up and in the course of my readings, and it come up a few times, was to add the molasses(organic) to the mixture. I will see if I can find a link.....
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Post by paulh on 19th November 2013, 22:29

He we go, some useful links on making worm juice with malasas

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Post by neptune on 19th November 2013, 22:46

Thanks Paul.....as indicated , they are a tea , which gets poured onto the soil.....all the ingredients are to build up the soil organically.......

just curious ...how did you get the molasses to such a dilutive stage, so it will pass thru a sprayer nozzle.........
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Post by paulh on 19th November 2013, 23:02

neptune wrote:Thanks Paul.....as indicated , they are a tea , which gets poured onto the soil.....all the ingredients are to build up the soil organically.......

just curious ...how did you get the molasses to such a dilutive stage, so it will pass thru a sprayer nozzle.........
John, I take your point, with the talk about foliage spraying being good for roses, I didn't think to hard about it.

With the molasses, I put it in a cup and mix in a cup full oiling water, when that's all mixed I just pour into the bucket of water that has the suspended worm poo being aerated with an aquarium pump. When spraying it helps not to have the nozzle adjusted to fine.
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neptune wrote:Thanks Paul.....as indicated , they are a tea , which gets poured onto the soil.....all the ingredients are to build up the soil organically.......

just curious ...how did you get the molasses to such a dilutive stage, so it will pass thru a sprayer nozzle.........
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With the molasses, I put it in a cup and mix in a cup full oiling water,
how much molasses did you put in the cup before the boiling water....
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Post by paulh on 19th November 2013, 23:29

neptune wrote:
paulh wrote:
neptune wrote:Thanks Paul.....as indicated , they are a tea , which gets poured onto the soil.....all the ingredients are to build up the soil organically.......

just curious ...how did you get the molasses to such a dilutive stage, so it will pass thru a sprayer nozzle.........
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With the molasses, I put it in a cup and mix in a cup full oiling water,
how much molasses did you put in the cup before the boiling water....
2-3 tablespoons John, that was going into about 18ltrs water
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Post by Ausrose on 20th November 2013, 04:26

From what I have m been able to deduce worm juice is probacterial that is made more effective by adding molasses. I am using  Gogo Juice which is a probacterial on my rose extensively this year and my roses are the best they have ever looked. Probably the use of GoGo Juice isn't the only reason for my roses being in such good condition as I have had the time of late to institute and maintain an intergrated management plan this year which I am sure has helped. As I stated in another post sometime back my new miniatures in pots are outstanding as a matter of fact they are the best I have seen and I put this to the use of good potting mix, GOGO JUICE, adequate water,successful pest management and the use of a regular frugal amount of Sudden Impact.

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