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Re: Massive rambler for partial shade?

Post by muscovyduckling on 14th December 2013, 18:08

Ahh bugger. That is a shame David. Still, I'll pop them in the ground and see what happens Smile
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Post by muscovyduckling on 15th December 2013, 21:25

Right. Now I'm actually contemplating planting out this hill with ramblers and groundcovers, I have a question about a planting plan, and the question is this:

When you plant a rose on a slope, and you want it to cover the slope, do you plant it at the top of the hill and hope it spills down, or do you plant it at the bottom of the slope and hope it climbs up the hill?

Does it even work like that? Am I approaching this entirely the wrong way?

Oh man, there is sooooo much I don't know about growing roses!
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Post by neptune on 15th December 2013, 21:47

Zoe, don't beat yourself up...we all had to start somewhere......

I would be incline to plant the rose at the top of the slope and let gravity pull it down and also you can peg the canes into position where you want them
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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 16th December 2013, 06:03

Zoe, as John(Neptune) has said "Do not beat yourself up", it is a constant learning curve for all of us. The best thing I have learnt about roses is that they create new friends and relationships between people you would/might not have ever met in life. Most of these friendships last into eternity.
I agree with John, at the top and peg them as a lot of ramblers will layer themselves, producing new plants as they grow. I hardest thing will be deciding which one's and colours, got to have lots of different colours so it brightens the hill.
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Post by muscovyduckling on 16th December 2013, 10:15

Thanks folks, I shall do just that!

In terms of choosing what to plant, I think I will be more constrained by the shaded sight, and not being able to get in there all that often to prune/maintain/train them, so choosing colours might have to come second.

Having said that, everyone tell me you favourite rambler/scrambler/big bushy climber! I'd like to hear what everyone else loves!
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Post by betsyw on 16th December 2013, 12:17

I'm thinking here, Zoe, that you want something(s) that need no attention at all, one of the beauties of ramblers. Once the hill begins to be covered, you're not going to want to wade in among the prostrate canes. Either you'll damage them, or they'll damage you ;-)

What was that marvellously tough and lovely rambler that John(I think?) spotted growing feral alongside a railroad track? Totally fending for itself, looking rosey and lush. That's the kind of ramblers we had at Cape Cod back in the day. Nobody did a thing for them, and every summer they bloomed and spilled down the hillocks near the salt marshes. Wild and wonderful. I think that's what you want, too, unless I'm mistaken and you're looking for a garden effect
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Post by muscovyduckling on 16th December 2013, 14:48

That is what I'm after! I won't be able to maintain a garden effect I'm afraid.
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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 16th December 2013, 15:10

It was Gary(Balinbear) on a trip somewhere Betsy, ther was some before and after shots, down an old rail line, and it was the infamous Dr Huey I think.
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Post by AutumnDamask on 16th December 2013, 15:18

roseman wrote:It was Gary(Balinbear) on a trip somewhere Betsy, ther was some before and after shots, down an old rail line, and it was the infamous Dr Huey I think.
I thought it was 'Dorothy Perkins' ? It was pink....
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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 16th December 2013, 15:23

Correct as always Wendy, roflmao 
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Post by betsyw on 16th December 2013, 15:53

Yes, I knew it wasn't the old Doctor. Dorothy Perkins, indeed. How about that one for Zoe?
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Post by neptune on 16th December 2013, 16:59

or for that splqsh of color, grow two different types....never short of the same color and will cover a bigger area...
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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 16th December 2013, 18:29

IMO, I would not plant either, if Zoe wants to look at nice roses, but that is just me. How about we all make a list and submit it.
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Post by muscovyduckling on 16th December 2013, 18:48

Haha David! The thing about Dorothy Perkins is that it grows pretty much wild around here in less than optimal conditions, so I know it will do fine. Also it may not be the most beautiful of roses, but it's still an improvement over the environmental weeds that normally grow there!

But great idea! Everyone submit your lists! I will pick 15 and plant them Smile
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Post by betsyw on 16th December 2013, 19:26

Zoe, here's a thread to whet your appetite. Some stunning pix, too ;-)))))

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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 16th December 2013, 20:37

I have some triffeds(thorns) here which I will strike and send to you Zoe, best of luck when they are established.
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Post by Balinbear on 16th December 2013, 20:59

Yes it was Dorothy Perkins. Growing wild and covering a huge area.

Brought home some bits and 17 out of bits 17 have struck. We had roots growing out the bottom of the pots after two weeks.

A Dorothy Perkins hedge is going in along the dam wall.
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Post by muscovyduckling on 17th December 2013, 08:51

Oooh thanks, but what are triffeds? Lol.
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Post by betsyw on 17th December 2013, 09:07

From "Day of the Triffids" by John Wyndham. Scifi classic. Triffids are tall, alien plants that can walk. They like to kill humans with a poisonous sting. Wyndham was a brilliant British writer of the 50s, best known for Triffids and also " Midwich Cuckoo". See also silky's Orange Alien Cuckoo rose
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Post by muscovyduckling on 18th December 2013, 20:47

Oh crikey! What am I getting into here!
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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 19th December 2013, 06:45

Zoe, do not be afraid, you are just getting involved with roses of all sorts lol! 
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Post by betsyw on 19th December 2013, 06:56

Zoe, be very, very afraid... You are getting involved with roses of all sorts;-)
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Post by Balinbear on 19th December 2013, 10:19

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Another one taken by the spell.
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