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Post by jordan71 on 28th April 2013, 15:02

hi guys have had this rose for few years , its always had apricot peach blooms on it , today I took a pic of one of the blooms , it seems to me its very bright yellow , still has the same petals and the fragrance , just the colour is so different , is it the weather ?
if anyone has any idea ? please let me know

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Post by Carole on 28th April 2013, 16:27

I dont know, but it is lovely Dan.
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Post by jordan71 on 28th April 2013, 17:17

thank you carole
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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 28th April 2013, 19:04

Dan, is there any other buds to open ?. The spent blooms are they on different stems ?.
The reason I ask is you "might have" a sport coming through. The parentage of it will help whether you have or not.
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Post by AutumnDamask on 28th April 2013, 20:40

Finbarr might know, because it was Swane's that introduced 'Sweet Cailin' here.

David might have a good point too...
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Post by Ausrose on 28th April 2013, 21:51

There are two roses registered as Sweet Caitlin both were registered in 2010 and both are floribundas however one is ab (apricot blend) and the other is my (medium yellow). The one Swanes have in their catalogue is the ab one.

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Post by neptune on 28th April 2013, 23:43

Thanks for that , Doug... Thumbsup
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Post by jordan71 on 29th April 2013, 07:48

roseman wrote:Dan, is there any other buds to open ?. The spent blooms are they on different stems ?.
The reason I ask is you "might have" a sport coming through. The parentage of it will help whether you have or not.

there was few buds on different stems , they all were peach / apricot. the yellow one is on another stem . I will check to see if there is any more buds on that stem
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Post by Ausrose on 29th April 2013, 09:00

I would wait until the buds come out to see whether they come out yellow. In my research I found the names registered in Modern Roses as I stated previously that is the same however in the Swane's catalogue on the internet the two roses are listed spelt differently e.i. Sweet Cailin(apricot blend) and Sweet Caitlin (medium yellow).

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Post by jordan71 on 29th April 2013, 11:14

okay thanks . will see what the new flowers like

as for the colour, I wouldn't call mine medium yellow , its strong similar to graham Thomas
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Post by Ausrose on 29th April 2013, 12:08

I have a Treloar rose named Candlelight that is very similar to the rose you have.

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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 29th April 2013, 12:20

Doug I have just walked in for lunch and I had a look this morning before work. They are both by Dr. Keith Zary, but the thing that caught my eye was release dates, I think it was about 2 if not 3 years difference. I will go back and check and get back.
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Post by jordan71 on 29th April 2013, 13:54

Ausrose wrote:I have a Treloar rose named Candlelight that is very similar to the rose you have.

so do I , I have this rose also . and its not a mix up here , I know this rose is def Sweet cailin .( sweet colleen)
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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 1st May 2013, 05:48

Dan, have you contacted Finbarr yet regarding this rose.
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Post by jordan71 on 1st May 2013, 07:07

no I haven't David,

can u please pm his email address and I will shoot him an email. thanks
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Post by Ausrose on 1st May 2013, 07:36

I wasn't inferring you had mixed up Candlelight and Sweet Cailin but rather Candlelight is a similar rose.

What I have found the electronic version of "Modern Roses 12" lists two different roses named Sweet Caitlin both hybridized by Keith Zary and released in 2010.

Help Me Find has Sweet Caitlin and Sweet Cailin both hybridized by Keith Zary but with different release dates.

On all I have found out to date I am of the belief the Modern Roses 12 is incorrect and there are two different roses and they are spelt Caitlin(Kathleen) and Cailin(Coleen). Swanes has both roses for sale.
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Post by jordan71 on 1st May 2013, 08:09

thank you ausrose , well I know the previous blooms are def the bottom pic, but the new one on the stem is exactly the same but pure vibrant yellow. I will contact fin from swanes and see what he thinks
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Post by Ausrose on 1st May 2013, 08:29

If the flowers are on the same bush and they are completely different in colour the bush has sported.If you are able to take buds from the stem with the yellow rose and have them budded onto root stock you have a new rose so as to speak.

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Post by jordan71 on 1st May 2013, 17:56

thanks ausrose , unfortunately that's the only one bloom on the stem . I will see if more comes up
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Post by silkyfizz on 2nd May 2013, 20:37

Just curious, does a sport start at the beginning of a cane/branch? Does it get affected by pruning?
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Post by jordan71 on 2nd May 2013, 20:39

no 100% sure silky , the first time something like that occurred with my roses , I hope its a sport , cause the colour is beautiful vibrant yellow just as intense as DA graham Thomas
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Post by silkyfizz on 2nd May 2013, 20:47

Well I hope it is a sport Dan. That would be so exciting, your very own rose!
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Post by jordan71 on 2nd May 2013, 20:48

yeah that would be great silky:)
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