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Best red miniature and landscape roses

Post by helenmargaret on 15th February 2013, 13:17

Can anyone help with a list of strong, healthy miniature and/or landscape roses which are red and will grow in areas with frost and temperatures down to around minus 7 degrees? Soil is not great with a fair amount of clay although I am willing to build it up. Thanks. Helenmargaret.




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Re: Best red miniature and landscape roses

Post by maree on 15th February 2013, 22:41

The only one i can think of is Home Run . a landscape rose , Swanes have it Helenmargaret ....
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Post by silkyfizz on 15th February 2013, 22:46

Sorry Helenmargaret, wish I could help but have no idea. Good luck in your search.
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Post by Ozeboy on 16th February 2013, 05:33

helenmargaret, I'd give 'Home Run' a try, must mention I have only had one bush for about 3 months. I'm a bit reluctant to suggest anything I haven't had for one or two seasons. It does have some very healthy roses in it's pedigree. Don't know what potting mix Swanes are using in it but it doesn't hold moisture so be careful of it drying out very quickly.

The first rose that came to mind is 'Claret Cup', a red with a white centre. It has the German rose 'Gartendirektor' in it's pedigree so will handle temps down to minus 7. It's a very healthy rose well worth the effort to find it. I only have one left but will be propagating it again this year.

'Home Run' is a Swanes new release this year so it will be available everywhere.

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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 16th February 2013, 06:37

Helen, are you looking at one rose or a mass planting of one variety. How long do you incur -7c for
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Re: Best red miniature and landscape roses

Post by Ausrose on 17th February 2013, 22:19

A great red miniature is the Australian bred Red Gem. From my experience it grows like a weed and appears disease resistant. Its ability to -7 temperatures I am not sure of however it handles -2 quite well in Emu Plains. I believe Ross Roses will have a limited number available as a bare rooted rose come June. The rose was bred by the doyen of Australian breeders Bruce Chapman.

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Post by Ozeboy on 18th February 2013, 01:07

Doug, I have Red Gem on my list for budding next season. I would be surprised if it would handle Canberra winters -7 below. The temperature is one problem, the other is constant wind. I lived there for
2 years and couldn't stand the howling early Spring wind strong enough to blow a dog off a chain. Red Gem certainly does well at rose shows.


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Post by Ausrose on 18th February 2013, 06:32

Bruce the question I would ask, "Is from your experience do roses in general handle the -7 temperatures and winds of Canberra?"

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Post by Ozeboy on 18th February 2013, 14:05

Doug, answer is not very well. As I mentioned 'Home Run' looks good on paper but would suggest helenmargaret buy one and a 'Claret Cup' to try before comitting to a low hedge of them. It's not a minature as requested. 'Claret Cup' described as a minature is a metre high. Other reference mentions a Floribunda so it's definately the latter.

It's possibly an even money bet which is best but without protection from a wind break like buildings or trees etc both are in for a hard time.
The weather down there may be too severe for 'Red Gem but like the others give one a try for a season.

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Post by helenmargaret on 9th April 2013, 16:31

Thank you to everyone for the good advice. I am planning on planting a small group of red roses and I like the idea of Home Run because I think we should support Australian Rose Trial Medal winners (if they suit), it looks so healthy, and I like the colour and shape of the flowers. I am also going to follow up on Red Gem (would appreciate advice on where I can see it). I am familiar with Claret Cup - what a stunning rose - but it is a bit too "claret" for this particular situation. Thanks again everyone!

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Post by Ausrose on 9th April 2013, 18:32

Ross Roses had a limited number of Red Gem(Chapman) budded for the coming winter bare rooted season. I would suggest you contact the nursery asap. It is very popular in NSW and I wouldn't be surprised if it is all sold out.

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Post by Ozeboy on 10th April 2013, 07:17

Doug, I managed to bud a few myself, looked very nice in a rose bed.

Good red minatures are hard to find.

Thank's for bringing it to our attention.

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Post by Ausrose on 23rd June 2013, 20:40

I have grown 5 Benardella Ruby miniatures in potts over the last few months and wow.

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Post by neptune on 23rd June 2013, 21:14

Ausrose wrote:I have grown 5 Benardella Ruby miniatures in potts over the last few months and wow.

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Post by Ausrose on 24th June 2013, 07:59

Unfortunately the bushes are well past their prime and wouldn't do justice to what they were.

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Post by Bonita18 on 1st July 2013, 11:15

Falk Hannemann from The Rose Nursery at Box Hill bred my favourite - Ruby Treasure. It is one of those roses I would take to a desert island.

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Re: Best red miniature and landscape roses

Post by Ozeboy on 1st July 2013, 11:36

I have had my eye on Red Cascade as a miniature breeder.
My plant is quite young but have heard it can grow pretty large. The blooms are red and leaves are small so crossed with a miniature it might produce some interesting reds. Will study everything further but at quick glance it looks good. Has anyone bred from RC?

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