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What a difference the PH level makes

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What a difference the PH level makes

Post by Balinbear on 20th January 2013, 21:56

Below are photos of two plants of Boarderer bred by Alister Clark

The first one is grown in our normal garden soil with a PH of 5.5

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This one is growing in some garden blend that we purchased from the local hardware/landscape supplies. It was almost all chook poo (well not quite) and has a PH of 7.5. Both plants are cutting grown from the same parent. The colour is actully richer than shown in the second photo and the difference is amazing.

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Post by silkyfizz on 20th January 2013, 22:16

Yikes! That is amazing. Apart from bloom colour and intensity, are there obvious differences in growth pattern, foliage, general vigour? It would be interesting to see effects with other roses too. Anyone up for some experimentation?
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Post by Balinbear on 21st January 2013, 09:40

The growth etc is pretty much the same just the intensity of the colour. I only got a small amount of the soil to top dress a bit of garden that had a very low PH.

This plant is growing where I wideneded the garden a little and thus is growing in the purchased soil (well about 6 - 9 inches then its down to the normal soil)
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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 21st January 2013, 12:21

Gary is there much or any difference in the leaf characteristics
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Post by Balinbear on 21st January 2013, 13:46

Not that is noticiable I don't think. I will have a closer look when I get a chance.
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Post by paulh on 24th January 2013, 01:04

ok with a ph of 5.5 and 7.5 it would be interesting to see what is unlocked and locked up at those levels, and is a margin of 2.0 a significant factor
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Post by Ausrose on 21st April 2013, 05:56

Two years ago I struck a cutting of Flemington Racecourse and subsequently it grew into a very small bush in a somewhat large pot. Despite all the TLC the plant didn't grow. After listening to a talk on pH I decided to test the pH of the pot and to my surprise it came out at 4. To cut a long story short I treated the pot with liquid dolomite some 5 weeks back and the bush is starting to take off.


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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 21st April 2013, 06:05

Doug, isn't it interesting, we look at a plant and think what is wrong, we tend not to listen to the plant/soils. Where I live I have what would be considered fantastic soil, black loam, veggies and lucerne grow fantastic. There is a young farmer here which you would class as a "holistic farmer", when you speak with him he words are "I do not grow plants, I grow soil", in essence, grow soil, translates into growing plants.
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Post by betsyw on 22nd April 2013, 10:16

Wise farmer. I once heard it expressed this way:
"Plant a $10 rose in a $50 hole." (Prices quoted were correct as at 1998. Allow for inflation).
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Post by Ausrose on 22nd April 2013, 10:23

The longer I am involved in growing roses the more I believe what the farmer said to be true.

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Post by neptune on 22nd April 2013, 15:31

betsyw wrote:Wise farmer. I once heard it expressed this way:
"Plant a $10 rose in a $50 hole." (Prices quoted were correct as at 1998. Allow for inflation).

My philosophy.......
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Post by RosyTeesh on 24th April 2013, 08:49

What do you all recommend to raise the PH? Just the usual from Bunnings?
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Post by neptune on 24th April 2013, 09:00

RosyTeesh wrote:What do you all recommend to raise the PH? Just the usual from Bunnings?

do you know what your ph of your soil and water is........
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Post by RosyTeesh on 24th April 2013, 09:04

Nope and I am too lazy to test haha. We have so many gardens and I just don't have the time.
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Post by neptune on 24th April 2013, 09:09

ok then...this might sound silly...but why do you want to raise ph, if you don't know the ph?....
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Post by RosyTeesh on 24th April 2013, 09:25

No, just asking what is used.
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Post by Bonita18 on 24th April 2013, 10:51

I have a question which might sound silly. Our sewerage treatment plant water output always sits at 7.2 ph. Is this too high for my roses in the big garden that receives this water? Does that mean I need to check the ph more often. I have not checked it since last winter.

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Post by neptune on 24th April 2013, 13:01

its about neutral ...no worries
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