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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 5th October 2012, 06:00

Ok, just a question/quiz on the subject of perfume/fragrance in roses. Which variety/varieties care it, does anyone know, put your thinking caps on people, see how many you can come up with.
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Post by jordan71 on 5th October 2012, 06:29

david there is way too many roses with perfume lol
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Post by AutumnDamask on 5th October 2012, 06:36


And with noses all being different it could make for a very complicated list...
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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 5th October 2012, 06:44

Ok I will start, 'centifolia'
This is not one but have just found it on another forum
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Post by jordan71 on 5th October 2012, 07:06

okay here we go

parfum de l'hay
roseraie de l'hay
mme ernst calvat
mme isacc pereire
nahema
ebb tide
eyes for you

fragrant cloud
fragrant plum
francis dubrieul
fruhilingsgold
kazanlik
la reine
lorriane lee
pink shade
quatre saison
souvenir de la malmaison
warm whishes
zephrine drouhin


and lots of david austins that i have but maybe thats another topic
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Post by AutumnDamask on 5th October 2012, 08:52

I'll start my list: (of ones I can remember... sometimes they vary too)

Quatre Saisons / Autumn Damask (** rose oil producer)
Kazanlik (** rose oil producer)

Souvenir del la Malmaison
Chateau de Clos Vougoet
Crimson Glory
Oklahoma
Papa Meilland
Firefighter
Olde Fragrance
Heaven Scent
Reine de Violettes
Rubens
Tipsy Imperial Concubine
Mme Lombard

After I "refresh my nose" this spring I'll add to the list. LOL

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Post by jordan71 on 5th October 2012, 08:53

MMMMM kazanlik has an amazing perfume . glad we both picked it wendy
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Post by Balinbear on 5th October 2012, 09:01

Most have perfume one way or another and depends on what you like.

But my favourites would be

Comtess de Larbathe
Mme Ernst Calvat (ours is on a pillar so it has its adavantage of not having to bend over)
Felicia (actually most Hybrd Musks have delightful purfume)
and for an outside runner Pink Chiffon.

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Post by Balinbear on 5th October 2012, 09:06

Probably should add that the heritage roses have a more subtle perfume but can knock you over without being overly strong.

One of our neighbour's house is probably 80-100 metres away and the lady there tells us that in spring when the plants in the circle of Comtess de Larbathe are flowering she can smell the perfume. There are about 20-30 roses in the circle so there are literally thousands of flowers. Its funny though I don't notice it but I notice the perfume of our susanqua camellias when others do not notice.
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Post by Guest on 5th October 2012, 15:29

90 % of what I have bred Dave, Damask, Myrrh, Fruity , Spicey, Dianthus, Cloves, Citrus and Tea. On a hot day its like a perfumery.

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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 5th October 2012, 15:48

What Warren no flavors like wine, chocolate, blackberry and others
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Post by Jac2 on 6th October 2012, 09:10

What a brilliant link, David, fantastic! I’m not really ready to comment, because not all my roses have bloomed yet; but so far in no particular order:

Tamora
Jude the Obscure
Angel Face
Othello
Munstead Wood
Fragrant Cloud
Valencia
The Squire (honey when the temperature is right)
Felicia (musk)
Eiffel Tower
Tiffany
Mr. Lincoln
Reine de Violettes
Pat Austin
Heritage
Hercules
Shot Silk
Abraham Darby
Big Purple
Gertrude Jekyll
Lamarque


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Post by betsyw on 7th October 2012, 12:40

Okay, this is a good game, because I'm getting fresh inspiration from others' lists.

Some of mine have been mentioned at least once, but I like to play so in no particular order here goes: (only have listed ones I have grown myself and can remember with some vividness)

Fragrant Cloud
Valencia
Parole
Sweet Chariot
Jardins de Bagatelle
Best Friend
Mme Al Carriere
Reve d'Or
Lamarque
Aotearoa
Full Sail
Firefighter
Adolf Horstmann
Charles de Gaulle
Secret (n/a in Oz)
Ginger Hill (n/a in Oz)
Cl America (n/a in Oz)
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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 7th October 2012, 13:40

A good mix Betsy, old and new. It isn't fare that you include one's we can't have yet or even get at all. These I reckon go on the wish list related to roses from overseas we will have to wait for(hopefully)
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Post by Jac2 on 8th October 2012, 00:14

How did you get to have roses we can’t Betsy?
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Post by betsyw on 8th October 2012, 02:20

I'd love to say that I have influence on top of influence, and my smallest wish is someone else's command. In reality, we lived in Seattle for five years, where I was stupefied with boredom, and so discovered the angsty joys of roses.

Secret and Ginger Hill will never make it to Oz, I reckon. They're old news now, and would have been here by now if anyone was going to pick them up in Oz.

I don't understand why Secret didn;t cross the pond: hugely successful rose in N. America and Europe. It's the rose that's both infuriating and inescapably captivating. Some days it's brilliant, somedays it's awful, but like the little girl with the curl, when it's good it;s UNBEATABLE. No wonder few people ever give this one up. Bewitchingly beautiful and variable, and the scent is divinnnnne.

Also one of the most photogenic colour blend roses of all time - owners just can't stop snapping Secret. I myself have a few thousand digital pix on a memory card in some dark drawer.

Having said all that - pssst: I lovedlovedloved my frilled near-white Ginger Hill evenmore than Secret. No one knows for sure, because GH's origins are shrouded in mystery, but I think the two roses are related.
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Post by Jac2 on 21st October 2012, 11:12

Betsy, I’ve wanted to ask this for ages, but was too concerned I might get off topic. Then I realized this is the “Question” thread. DOH?
Your imported roses sound wonderful, was it very difficult to get them into the country? Were there any restrictions, quarantine or other requirements, and what were the costs involved?
I don’t think I will be able to get my Penzance roses here in Australia …
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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 21st October 2012, 11:25

Jac, I think you will find that the roses which Betsy is referring to is on a wish list. I will try and get Finbarr from Swanes to give us a timeline on how long it takes.
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Post by Jac2 on 21st October 2012, 11:45

Ahh, double doh. Can you tell me how I could get my hands on a couple of roses, which are not offered in Australia, David?
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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 21st October 2012, 14:03

Pay a lot of money, unless you can piggy back some other imports
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Post by betsyw on 21st October 2012, 15:22

I'm still curious as to why Secret never made it into circulation here. Maybe didn't pass the field trials - although it seems to be a credible plant everywhere else in the First World. Such an unforgettable creature.

Having said that, I wouldn't even be remotely tempted to pay big bucks to import it now. So many other roses, so little time.

Secret Garden Musk Climber, on the other hand......... ;-))))))))) That one I would rob a bank for. (Okay, maybe a piggybank..)
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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 21st October 2012, 18:56

Betsy, without you or me looking who produced it. I have just come inside after 724 bales of lucerne, so I am not looking
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Post by betsyw on 21st October 2012, 19:08

Hey, interesting factoid about Secret:

Secret x Fragrant Lace produced -
POPE JOHN PAUL II
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Post by maree on 21st October 2012, 21:57

Had a look at those roses Betsy , they certainly do look good , as Roseman says , a question for Finbaar . Betsy just being a nosy parker , but why was Seattle so boring ?
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Post by Jac2 on 22nd October 2012, 19:51

How would I piggyback some other imports, David?
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