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Post by maree on 21st September 2012, 21:23

Silky and Rosy, Ausrose sums it up , slow grower , and hardly any flowers on Papa , a very frustrating rosebush and not a healthy one at that , yep its coming out ,its in the front of the rose bed , have decided to put in a water feature where it is , ha ha ...
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Post by RosyTeesh on 22nd September 2012, 00:10

Mine's about 1m high and not many flowers but the flowers are magnificent when they do come out. Wonder if anyone has had good luck with PM? I think I have a couple to come out this weekend.
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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 22nd September 2012, 05:51

Can you girls check your PMs petals. What I am looking for is a white line in some or one of the petals, I reckon there are 'different' PM, some better than others.
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Post by AutumnDamask on 22nd September 2012, 06:52

My PM is over 1.5m high and absolutely fine health-wise. It doesn't flower as much as Oklahoma but it's hardly tardy.
I've had more trouble with Mr Lincoln....
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Post by maree on 22nd September 2012, 15:10

Okay all you guys with healthy PM's , i'm really jealous , cause mine is now dying , i'm absolutely anti pesticide , but we gave it a drink of Roundup as i was absolutely terrified it had a disease and would pass it on to the other roses , bit late after three years though i guess . Roseman couldn't see any white lines on the leaves , but mines definately a dodgy one .......
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Post by RosyTeesh on 22nd September 2012, 15:46

This is the only photo I have of my PM I don't have an open photo Sad

Mr Lincoln grows the same amount of flowers as PM does for me. Both healthy (but slow growth though).

Have not noticed a distinct white line Roseman but I will keep an eye out when this next bud opens.

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Post by Ausrose on 24th September 2012, 03:02

AutumnDamask you mentioned Papa Meilland, Mister Lincoln and Oklahoma in your post of the 22nd September an interesting point about these three red roses are they are all Chrysler Imperial X Charles Mallerin. Papa Meilland was released by French company Meilland in 1963 while Mister Lincoln 1964 and Oklahoma 1965 were both released by Swim and Weeks of USA.

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Post by AutumnDamask on 24th September 2012, 07:22

Oh, that's interesting Ausrose. I knew PM and Oklahoma were "siblings" but didn't realise ML was in the same family. I'd also heard that PM x Oklahoma doesn't turn out well...

To me, PM has slightly better flower form as Oklahoma goes through a "rounded" half-bud stage (not sure if I described that very well). But the scent of both is amazing. (I'm so not a "musk" girl. Wink )
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Post by Ausrose on 24th September 2012, 13:03

0n the subject of crossing roses some years back a mate of mine crossed John F Kennedy with Marilyn Monroe but the resultant crosses turned out duds. Perhaps there is a moral to this story.

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Post by Guest on 24th September 2012, 16:54

Yeah doug dont go for hot blondes MM or you will end up in trouble roflmao

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Post by Ausrose on 24th September 2012, 18:38

Perhaps Warren you could try where others have failed.

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Post by Guest on 24th September 2012, 19:10

Looking at the offspring of both , I would say they are both pretty iffy to me. MM seems to produce alot of very opened blooms, JFK although in itself is a reasonable looking rose, its offspring are sort of average. I take alot of time researching the first generation offspring of every thing I breed with, so I don't have to many slip ups, and waste years of time.

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Post by maree on 24th September 2012, 21:21

I had read that about Papa and Oklahoma , i planted both those roses at the same time , Oklahoma has flourished, still a bit prone to dieback , but still flourished while Papa stayed stubbornly sickly and slow . Oklahoma flowers not long lived , Papa not real sure , never had enough of them , making me think my Papa certainly was a dud , i do like Oklahoma , probably better than Firefighter , maybe just because of the fragrance ...
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Post by Ausrose on 25th September 2012, 05:56

Two rose bushes I've found to be well below expectations are Angel Face and French Lace yet I have seen some excellent specimens of the both rose bushes.

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Post by AutumnDamask on 25th September 2012, 06:58

I knew Angel Face was tricksy but when I was offered 3 cuttings a few years ago I took them (duh). They grew but in the end I heaved them out as they died off. I purchased a grafted one and it's only a small bush but it is pretty healthy and is generous with flowers and no worse with BS than a bunch of my other bushes.
French Lace.... love it. Mine hasn't been pruned for several years (always something else to do) but it flowers and flowers... Smile
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Post by RosyTeesh on 25th September 2012, 08:20

My Angel Face has pretty flowers but it's super small. Very slow growing. But I am going to keep it because it's not taking up too much space and see how it goes. I have a thornless pink rose which gets GORGEOUS roses on it, but looks like a climber? I didn't buy it as a climber and it has no where to climb Rolling Eyes It's growing like mad but no flowers. Grr.
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Post by Ausrose on 26th September 2012, 11:58

Warren I was talking about the blondes.

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Post by tambralyngar on 29th September 2012, 11:24

My Angelface is slow growing as well, but the flowers are beautiful so I keep it around Wink
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Post by AutumnDamask on 29th September 2012, 11:51

Angel Face tends to be a small bush.
When the triffids went past they ignored that one. Razz

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