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Re: What can we talk about now

Post by RosyTeesh on 23rd August 2012, 18:23

I wonder if it is because I have fertilized/watered them more than the ones in the ground. Although, I fertilize/water the ones in the ground pretty well and they are happy. My bare rooted roses from last month in pots are full bushes now with heaps of buds and flowers forming. The leaves are perfect and green it's amazing me how much better they are doing. It's very odd! I have about 50 in the ground and 10 in pots.
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Post by Jac2 on 23rd August 2012, 19:03

Extra fertilizer and water may well be it; I guess the best way to know for sure would be to give extra f/w to a couple of the roses in the ground as well and see what happens.
So you’ve go lots of leafy growth and buds already, excellent! Do we get to see some pictures of your roses soon?
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Post by RosyTeesh on 23rd August 2012, 20:20

Sure Smile Which ones would you like to see? I have so many (like I am sure everyone here does). I don't have a list though Sad
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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 24th August 2012, 07:26

One of the reasons the one's in the pots might be doing better is the pot it's self, what are they made of. With newly planted rose in the ground the early growth comes from stored energy within. With pots it can be a lot of contributing factors, some are, what the pot is made of, colour of pot, reflective heat(irradiation I think it is called).
In alot of case lants will not start to grow unless soil temps are around 14 deg C .
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Post by RosyTeesh on 24th August 2012, 08:08

Wow that's very interesting! I am so impressed with the pots that I am thinking of ripping some of my roses out to grow in pots next year.
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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 24th August 2012, 08:15

Teesh, pots can be more work. Have you got a thermometer, if not get cheap one from the B shop, you will be surprised even in the garden, say from shade to full sun areas
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Post by RosyTeesh on 24th August 2012, 08:46

I only have full sun areas for the roses. Why do you say they will be more work? The garden is taking me 2 hours every few days as it is Sad
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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 24th August 2012, 08:55

With pots thet tend to dry out quicker than the ground as the roots can't find any residual water as the roots are contained. The pots construction and colour also have lots to do with it.
An example of it in some parts of the America where people have large areas of pots, which are referrered to as "pot ghetto's" they line the pots with 'bubble wrap' as insulation against cold. The pot needs to be re-soiled or partially each second year. asa the plant grows so does the pot.
This said some very good specimens are in pots
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Post by RosyTeesh on 24th August 2012, 08:58

That's very true. I have found that. The pots are light in colour, I read that black pots were bad for the root systems. It never gets very cold in Brisbane. I think I'll see how my little experiment goes, they aren't as tall as some in the garden but they are more bushy and green, no black spot and very few aphids. But that could change! Wink
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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 24th August 2012, 09:11

Ok Teesh, it might sound silly, but by keeping records of what you call experiments we all can pass onto others, some of it might be trivial. to others a great help. A friend I talk to about "rose seed" in the US, says we are here to pass on th knowledge we hav gained ourselves or from others. In other words we are conduits of it.
Have a great day out in the garden, that is where i am off to now.
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Post by RosyTeesh on 24th August 2012, 09:20

No worries, I will do. And thank you for all of your help Smile
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Post by neptune on 24th August 2012, 09:28

also pots need to be watered twice a day
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Re: What can we talk about now

Post by RosyTeesh on 24th August 2012, 09:33

They seem to be ok in Winter but I imagine in summer yep they will definitely need more watering sunny
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Post by Jac2 on 24th August 2012, 11:11

RosyTeash, maybe just a couple of your absolute favorites of all time, if it’s tedious to upload many together.
Uh, the thought of you digging up roses that are already on their best way of establishing themselves in the ground makes me think: oh no, what about summer, when the temps will skyrocket and the pots overheat and need sooo much more water? I know it must be very tempting when you see the potted once doing so much better at the moment, but wouldn’t cutting their roots to fit them into pots maybe defeat the purpose?
I only pot roses that may have to be shifted because they either burn or fade in the summer heat or that I bought on short notice and therefore have no concrete plan for their position.
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Post by RosyTeesh on 24th August 2012, 11:18

I've put just 1 from the garden in a pot at the moment and it is doing much better. Any that aren't doing well I will transfer but it would take me too long to pot the rest lol
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Post by neptune on 24th August 2012, 12:28

Trish, what size pots are you using...ie:- height x width?
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Re: What can we talk about now

Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 24th August 2012, 14:51

Teesh, have a look at this site just found it, have not read it yet
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Post by RosyTeesh on 24th August 2012, 16:25

Pots I think are 35x40cm not very big. So they may not go so well in the future unless I transfer them, I just ran out of room in the garden .. Lol.

Oh is that a good soap to use instead of white oil?
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