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Re: Looking Forward To Pruning Time.

Post by Carole on 25th June 2012, 22:49

I have never heard the term sap flow dieback either Bonita.
Bruce can you explain it for me please.
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Post by Carole on 25th June 2012, 22:53

Warren,
Only 400 to go lol!
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Post by lildeb on 25th June 2012, 23:51

Waste not, Carole; would you like me to send a self-addressed postpack???
Save you the effort of burning/shredding or chucking em... heehee..... prunings=cuttings!! So, 'snip-snip' there my lovely!!
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Just trying to be helpful...... Dunno
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Post by Guest on 26th June 2012, 05:56

Sapflow dieback is when you prune to late and growth buds are erupting, pruning them at this stage , you will see sap dripping out of the ends of the canes, not good. I aleays prune early as it enables me to start breeding in early Sept.

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Post by Ozeboy on 26th June 2012, 09:50

Say no more, Warren has said it for me.

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Re: Looking Forward To Pruning Time.

Post by Carole on 26th June 2012, 12:56

Thank you. Now I know.
I havn't noticed with roses but I have seen it a lot with grape vines and they call it bleeding or crying depending on who you talk to.
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Post by Ozeboy on 26th June 2012, 13:38

Carole, sap flow in early Spring is considerably difficult to seal particularly when a large cane is cut low down. I do avoid this hard pruning if the season is early and weather warm.
I have used just about every sealer from bees wax melted in an old frypan then brushing on 10 coats. A plastic cap with 5 minute epoxy applied but some how the sap seems to keep coming but at a reduced rate. Prune early rather than late to avoid this problem.

I am digging budded understocks now cutting the tops off half way through the noad or top growth above the bud to activate. There's no sap flow now but will get some growth from that area in Spring. Those top Multiflora shoots are rubbed off during growth months to make the bud grow. Next winter I will cut off just above the bud to avoid die back down the back of the bud. More trouble but a much better plant. First of July is understock cutting time for callousing. These usually do better than understocks cut later when sap is flowing. I like working in winter, easier on my old body. The grafted understock digging will finish this month (June) and then new understocks are cut first week of July. There's no sap problems doing all cutting at this time. Beware, our climate is milder than Mudgee so can get away with this.
There's a perfect time for the roses but I tend to look after myself now.

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Post by Balinbear on 26th June 2012, 15:02

Never noticed it and we prune at all stupid times of the year. I mean that is when something looks like it needs a bit of a prune we do it.
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Post by Carole on 26th June 2012, 15:07

We start pruning here at the end on July as it is the best time.
I do ours whenever for a better word. If I say I will start tommorow and it is cold, windy or wet I will leave it till the weather improves. David does the hard stuff that I leave behind as it is hard for me to cut. I'm a wimp.
Talk a fair weather gardener.
You have reminded me that I should get stuck into cutting some rootstock and de=eying,
I am busy at the moment with other plants.
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Post by Bonita18 on 26th June 2012, 19:42


thanks for such a wealth of information. There is something for each of us to learn in the above comments.

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Post by Ozeboy on 27th June 2012, 15:29

Carole , Mudgee is about 4 weeks behind Sydney weather so you are just about spot on with my pruning time. When I lived in Orange my Yates gardening book suggested planting 4 weeks later there than on the east coast.

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Post by AutumnDamask on 7th July 2012, 21:53

The other day I was wondering, idly, if I shouldn't just start on some pruning. Weather was nice etc etc. But I didn't "get around to it".

By heck we had a frost this morning. affraid Next couple of mornings should be "special" too. Rolling Eyes

There are times I am well rewarded for my procrastination!! Laughing
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Post by Ozeboy on 7th July 2012, 22:27

Last night I went to the annual meeting of the Rose Soc of NSW and paid my mmbership. The highlight was a pruning DVD produced by the SA Rose Soc. Without a doubt one of the best I have seen to date.
They also have a table show though blooms are quite down at this time of the year. Actually, my Tea's continue to bloom, what wonderful roses these are. Some of the old timers there mention first week of August as their pruning time. Middle of August here I notice the sap starting to flow so these guys migh end up in that period if the first week is missed.

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Post by neptune on 7th July 2012, 22:41

I did mine early this year and finished it on wednesday. Now I am working on bringing the soil up to a good measure......each year is something different , then maybe I will find a chord that rings true.....
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Post by maree on 8th July 2012, 10:25

AutumnDamask , same here , last two mornings , heavy frost and ice , glad i waited too ...
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Re: Looking Forward To Pruning Time.

Post by Ozeboy on 12th July 2012, 19:33

No I'm not looking forward to pruning time.
Started yesterday and again today. I've cut them so far back to get more shoots from the crown and removed every cane that looks older than 3 years.

When I came to Lorroine Lee Clg it was looking a little untidy so have gone against all the books, advice and my own knowledge to prune it like a HT Climber. All the laterals on the climbing canes that bloomed last year have been cut back to two nodes. Since this is an evergreen and pretty closely related to Gigantea I'm not sure how this climbing HT
type pruning will work.
IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE WHO HAS PRUNED LL CLG LIKE THIS?

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