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Diamond Jubilee - Can You Help?

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Diamond Jubilee - Can You Help?

Post by Ausrose on 8th June 2012, 16:05

"Bred by Eugene S “Gene” Boerner and released by Jackson and Perkins in 1947. Diamond Jubilee has large high centred buff yellow blooms with a delicate scent and shiny dark green foliage. A standout feature of the rose is its ugly buds but these are soon forgotten as the rose opens into a magnificent bloom."

Obviously Diamond Jubilee wasn't bred to celebrate Queen Elizabeth 11 Diamond Jubilee. Has anyone any ideas as to what, if any, Diamond Jubilee the Boerner rose was named for in 1947.

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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 9th June 2012, 07:02

Hope this helps, it is from references in HMF,

Diamond Jubilee Large-flowered. Eugene Boerner 1947. Introduced by Jackson & Perkins the year in which they celebrated sixty years of growing roses. Parentage: 'Maréchal Niel' x 'Feu Pernet Ducher'. Description... The color varies with the season... yellow, cream, apricot, blushed with pink...
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Post by Ausrose on 9th June 2012, 10:10

roseman

Thank you. I didn't think it would relate to English royalty with Jackson and Perkins being an American company.

Despite the age of the rose it is still in many of the commercial catalogues and not like many of the older hybrid teas doesn't seem to has lost any of its original vigour.

This rose is well worth a place in any garden.

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Post by Guest on 10th June 2012, 07:16

Doug when you cross it with other Ht's/ Flori's and shrubs good things come out of it. With some effort it will set hips and the pollen is very fertile.

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Post by Ausrose on 11th June 2012, 12:43

Warren have you any seedlings that you have bred using Diamond Jubilee in the breeding process.

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Post by Guest on 11th June 2012, 14:39

Doug I have a few from previous years still being trialed, and a stack from last year now as yearlings. Next spring will tell me whether to keep or shovell.

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Post by Ausrose on 11th June 2012, 20:33

Hi Warren on the subject of seedlings I looked up the cost of placing PBR on a newly bred rose and it is somewhere in the vicinity of $2000. Is that correct?

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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 11th June 2012, 21:04

Doug, I know Warren will correct me but I think there is a big difference between registaring a rose and PBRing one.
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Post by Ausrose on 11th June 2012, 22:22

Bruce you are correct with the registration. Why I am sure on this is because I moved the motion to remove cost of registering roses in Australia at the 2010 NRSA AGM in Brisbane which was duly passed. I do believe there is a move afoot to re-introduce a fee to register roses. This will be decided at the 2012 NRSA AGM in Melbourne.

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Post by Ausrose on 12th June 2012, 07:23

On the subject of PBR this is an extract from an article I found on Hainsroses website concerning PBR

Plant Breeders Rights (PBR) - How does is impact your personal propagating?

PBR is a form of patent protection that grants the rose breeder control of the propagating material (including seed, cuttings, divisions, tissue culture) and harvested material (cut flowers, fruit, foliage) of a new variety for twenty (20) years.

From a legal perspective regarding the reproducing roses for your own personal use:
"There are exceptions to the extent of the monopoly offered by PBR.
For example, it does not prevent others using your variety for:
• private and non-commercial purposes;
• experimental purposes; or
• breeding other plant varieties."

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Post by Ozeboy on 12th June 2012, 22:02

Ausrose, I have propagated 'Diamond Jubilee' for breeding purposes.
Anyone who produces a very good rose like DJ does need some protection and reward for their work. It's just for me to breed from and enjoy the wonderful blooms on a healthy bush.

I went to the Rose Society of NSW meeting last Friday week and should have brought Doug's 'Pink Angel' along despite the newly activated bud is only 1/4" long.
HT's of exhibition form are my favourites so might get into the exhibition scene if time permits. The meeting was great as have now met some of the very successiful exhibitors personally. Richard had some very interesting roses to give away so I selected unregistered 'Kath Dickson' which was described as being very healthy and bomb proof. ( My sort of rose.) I noticed over 50% of the roses recomended for exhibition are considered very disease resistant.
All interested rose people in NSW should look at joining the Rose Society of NSW.
'Diamond Jubilee' is on the list along with many other roses considered healthy.

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