Roses to swap

I have some own root roses I would like to swap for other own root roses or for certain plants that would suit my garden. Here is the list I have available.

Apricot Nectar - 7
Gelber Engel - 1
Excelsa - 4
Buff Beauty - 3
Heidesommer - 2
Cornelia - 5
Albertine - 2
Madame Gregoire - 2
Maggie - 1
Suntan - 2
Narrow Water - 4
Madame Hardy - 11
Blossomtime - 3
Poulsen's Delight - 1
Wedding Day - 1
Violette - 5
Belle Poitevine - 1
Gladsome - 5
Phyllis Bide - 1

How did Suntan strike for you Karen... I have 6 of them making a low border and have been impressed with how maintenance free and floriferous they've been. Mmmm I'd really love Violette... Leave that one with me for a moment LOL I have a Rosa Indica Major I could send you in exchange

Suntan struck easily and I think it is a very good rose too. Also Popcorn is very good to strike and it makes a good hedge. Yes I would like Rosa Indica Major, please !

Well Karen... guess what!!! I have been speaking to quarantine and it seems we ARE allowed to have propagating material sent down here to TAS. It's real easy too. See... all mail from the main land comes in through Launceston because quarantine has offices there and have an xray machine to scan all mail coming in. If you write on the front of the package that it contains plant propagating material and it contains no soil and no leaves then they pick it up and inspect it, release it, and it gets posted on to with our normal mail. Struck cuttings probably wouldn't be any good but cuttings or budwood is fine so long as it meets these requirements. So I will organise to have one of those little plants of Rosa Indica Major sent up to you along with cuttings from the Cherokee Rose, the Pink Cherokee Rose (Anemone) and Leda and will send you a pre-paid express post pack if you are still keen to send some cuttings of Tuscany (or was it Tuscany Superb??? Either/Both are good ) and maybe some Violette (would LOVE some Phyllis Bide and FDY cuttings too if you have any spare ).

Thats great news TasV !!! Really great news. Certainly I will send these.
That little sucker of Tuscany Surperb seems to have died back when I weeded around it, anyway.
I have found that my cuttings in the bottles are growing new leaves, even some of the cuttings that had no leaves or they fell off while in the bottle. So if I take all the leaves off you still might be able to get them to strike. And you can try budding from them too. If it doesn't work this time, I can send more cuttings in Winter. That means I can send cuttings to Billndee if she would like some, as she is already sending me cuttings. Thankyou Simon, for finding that out. Billndee ?
I will get the cuttings you would like from my friend's garden as she has a mature rose garden. She has alot of roses. Some of the cuttings I have been taking are from Souvenir d'un Ami, Mme Berkeley, Mrs Reynolds Hole, Monsuier Tiller, Mrs B R Cant, General Gallieni, Mme Jules Gravereaux, Mme Berard and Souvenir De Mme Leonie Viennot. Pere D' or is areally impressive Shrub in her garden. Lynette will be joinning this forum soon I think, she is getting a laptop and then learning how to us it.
Lynette has so many roses, too many to name, so if there are any roses that you want, then let me know and she might have it. I will ask her if I can get some to post out in the hope we can propergate more varieties of roses from the cuttings we recieve.
Also anything else you want from my list ? I still have to add some more to my list of roses, some David Austins and some others.
It doesn't matter how many cuttings. Do you want Vieilchenblau too ? Or do you already have it ?

I've already got Veilchenblau thanks Karen. Keep reminding me also... I've just got another nice Alister Clark early climbing HT called 'MRS HAROLD ALSTONS ROSE' and I'll send some of that out once there is more of itt o send. Will send some down to you too Dee. It looks really lovely and I'm going to try it around one those tripods that Deb described. The only thing they stressed you had to do was clearly mark on the front of the package 'Contains plant propagating material'. Would you also like some of my old Bourbon called 'Vivid'. This is such a beautiful rose and has so far *touch wood* remained spot free here with no attention at all. I don't prune it either and it grows long lax canes that would make it suitable as a small-medium climber. It only flowers once until it gets established and then over time it will start repeating for you (just not in huge flushes). I'll have a look at what other goodies I've got on the go. I should have about 30 struck gigantea cuttings soon. Checked them out today and gave them a quick spray of mancozeb and they looked pretty good. There should be another real oldie that I want to send around to as many people as possible to help ID. I found it growing in a paddock down here and it was suckering EVERYWHERE over an area of about 10-15m alongside a road on a fence. It has a lovely old pinky/purple flower with a heady perfume. Hoping so of those cuttigns will have struck too.

Would love Vivid as I lost it in a dry period. Also I lost my Gigantea own root plant I had grown, have always wanted another one. Also would love the Alister Clark. I have some Aliter Clarks you may like cuttings off. Would like to have your un named rose too. Thanks ! I am a greedy rose person !

Tasv, I would also like to get one of those Gigantea own root babies you are propagating for next winter. If overcome with requests then I can get it here in NSW, just let me know.

With any luck Bruce I can hopefully send you a bunch of them... they looked Ok today so am hoping a good percentage will start striking soon. The gigantea seeds I've got in warm stratification are unusual... they are going green as though they are photosynthesising... they are in a ziplock bag with moist perlite and are in a warm spot. It's maybe not as dark as it should be so maybe they are responding to the light levels. Interesting anyway.

Karen, I'll be sending them through in dribs and drabs... the struck cuttings I'll send when their roots are a little stronger and the weather is a little cooler. I'll have to update my rose list on here because there is another 30-40 types to add

Okay TasV, thankyou.
Can you give me your address in a email and if you are interested in any ot the other roses I have or that I can get.
Don't worry about the prepaid envelope, we will be roughly square if we each send a parcel to each other. We can keep a tally of if anyone owes any money.

Simon , I did get a few buds of Gigantea and have 8 left. They are budded on Multiflora and are growing with great vigour.

I have been given a few ownroot roses from various people but can't say "They grow with the budded rose vigour in the first two years ". Perhaps long term they are better as some growers suggest but so far can't agree with them. I will grow them any way to get the best result and am not pro one way or the other, just doing what works best for me.
I have a Cecile Brunner on Multiflora planted 1982 and it's a real house eater, looks better now than ever before.

I have two gigantea going now as well... one I budded last year that shot only recently after looking dead and the other a larger grafted plant from Reliable Roses. Both are in pots until I can livestock-proof their intended growing location (I'm going to grow them up a tree in the back paddock... one on either side of the same tree. I'm hoping they are actually from different gene pools so they might cross pollinate better or might behave slightly different in planned crosses).

'Cecile Brunner' is a great rose isn't it! One of my favourites. Mine grew 2m in the first year and is either budded onto multiflora or 'Manetti', I don't remember which. This is one of those roses that you need to be careful where you buy it as a lot of 'Cecile Brunner' are chronically infected with RMV.

Some time ago there was a conversation on here about planting roses below the graft so that over time they would develop their own roots and become independent of the understock. I can report back on this one in some way but not as I had expected and now I think about it I think it makes pretty good sense. I have a plant of 'Soaring Spirits' that I had to move recently. Previously I had buried the graft. It had been in the ground a year. When I stuck the shovel down under it I misjudged how deep it was and I cut the main trunk off cleanly above the roots but below the graft. After I finished I noticed that around the actual graft was a whole lot of callous material. When you perform a graft callous material needs to form to establish bonding... these cells are undifferentiated cells that help develop vascular tissue to feed the grafted stem as it grows and join it properly to the understock's vascular tissue. It seems to me that in this bud-union there are remaining undifferentiated cells that can and do differentiate into roots if the graft itself is buried. I have kept this portion and potted it up, hoping that the remaining top section will keep growing and the callous material will keep developing into roots. The stem section has started to develop buds so I'm hopeful. At a guess I'd say there would be a lot of roses that just wouldn't do this and no matter what you tried they wouldn't grow well on their own roots. I think maybe this should be part of the evaluation process of new roses. That longicuspis plant will be an own root plant Bruce... be sure to leave this one plenty of room because in its first year in the ground here, the small 30cm plant threw a 2-3m cane and a swag of basal shoots. Same with that multiflora plant I sent you. My two went from a skinny little cutting to a 1m x 1m square shrub in a year too. Mine are 2 years old now and are 3mx2m shrubs (they'd be taller but I kept lopping the tops off to strike as understocks. Will be interesting to see how they behave now as the only time I will be lopping them off is after flowering and won't be using them anymore for understocks now that I have their seedlings up and going to use instead).

.. which is amazing, some 3 m tall and 3+ yrs old, but my place is not that big, and instead I'd like to have a rose with more flexible canes to spread it horizontally. Thus I was thinking if someone is interested to swap?
Is that okay with the rules in this forum? If so, I'd very interested to swap it for some taller Alister Clark's rose for example. I already have Nancy Hayward and LL, so something else would be appreciated. Thank you all who find it an interesting idea.

Did you have anything particular in mind? I find the best way to find roses on here is to have specific roses in mind and then put a request in the Rose Hunters forum. We encourage the exchange of non PBR protected plants here and are swappig material and plants all the time.

Simon wrote:Did you have anything particular in mind? I find the best way to find roses on here is to have specific roses in mind and then put a request in the Rose Hunters forum. We encourage the exchange of non PBR protected plants here and are swappig material and plants all the time.

Thank you. Well, I'm open to suggestions and to availability too. Would definitely love to have some Clark's hybrid gigantea climber, but not sure what people have available.