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Eco-Rose fungicide

Post by betsyw on 20th May 2012, 18:36

Please excuse me if this topic has been done to death. I did a quick search, and came up empty, but perhaps the references are buried within posts and I missed them.

I don't spray anything with anything, but I'm thinking that if this product works ever so slightly, then I could apply with a clear conscience and no gas mask. I get occasional BS on all my roses ( and I usually select varieties that have better-than-average resistance), nothing that's hideous, but it would be nice to minimise the leaf damage for the general health of the roses.

Do any of you experts use this stuff? I realise that it's mostly potassium bicarbonate, but I'm not averse to paying for the convenient packaging.
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Post by maree on 7th June 2012, 21:26

Yes i have used this product for some years betsyw , save your money , cause its expensive and it doesn't work . You have to spray diligently every two weeks from when you prune them in June , you have to mix it with Eco oil and seaweed solution and spray both sides of the leaves for it to work . Very time consuming . The latest theory is to apply Munash Rockdust and Renew occasionally and you don't need to spray as often . Mmmnn we'll see .....
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Post by betsyw on 8th June 2012, 07:06

Oh goodie. Can send the money down the drain instead with a lottery ticket Wink
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Post by maree on 8th June 2012, 08:26

Lol , i found some good tips though from Roseman/Admin and others on the " Whats bugging my roses/black spot forum " . I tried the milk thing too, early in the morning didn't work , but the milk and bicarb recipe sounds good . EcoRose is so overpriced , i have given up on all sprays , just going to get my roses as healthy as i can this year and see how that goes ....
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Post by betsyw on 8th June 2012, 17:54

Look, I think all the RTA hybridisers should drop their seeds and stamens, and devote a year to a EUREKA! bs preventative. There are millions upon millions of dollars awaiting the inventors of such a product. Bigger bucks than an iphone app or a new social network. You heard it here first (or last. I can never tell.)

In any event: Maybe later in the season we can compare our unsprayed Blackberry Nips to see who has the more vicious regional strain of blackspot.
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Post by maree on 9th June 2012, 11:41

Good idea betsyw , comparing Blackberry Nip , i live in a temperate coastal area so black spot is always a problem , i'm just not going to spray anymore , i have spent a fortune over the years , spraying , have used the hard chemicals , and the organic stuff , and lugged around heavy spray bottles that leaked and i ended up getting wet and peeded off , none of it worked . I'm just going to keep trying different roses until i find ones that suit our climate . The newest product that Silkies Roses has recommended is Munash Rockdust and Renew liquid , use it everywhere in the garden occasionally or when you need it and at planting time . I bought some and i think i like it , bit early to tell yet ....
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Post by maree on 9th June 2012, 11:47

Oh yeah and i'm with you ,black spot probably makes people stop growing roses , rose growers should realise this , and they probably do , but it seems to me very little has been done about it , when they develope hybrid t roses .
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Post by betsyw on 11th June 2012, 09:56

Look, I'm thinking that about the only thing that you get when you breed a truly armour-plated rose is a scentless creature. Fine for some, but most of us value fragrance . And that goes for everyone who doesn't even grow the little wretches. First thing everybody does when they see a rose is smell it (or try to), right?

I'm further thinking here a systemic application. There's a super product called Comfortis for dogs. One tablet a month, and presto, no fleas, no flea larvae. So simple (and expensive, but worth it and cost-effective compared to sprays and collars and shampoos).

So why not a bs-killer that you apply to the soil? No tedious and hit-miss spraying, no toxins wafting around, no mixing anything (and good luck with those icky bicarb and milk formulae - none of 'em ever worked for me). Just add water and pour/

I have a name for this theoretical product: "NO BS, No bs" Cool
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Post by maree on 12th June 2012, 19:04

Sounds good betsyw , like you i like hybrid t because of the perfume and lovely flowers , but the bushes can be so disease prone and ungainly , you really have to wonder why . A systemic system sounds good , anyone out there listening ?
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Post by Ausrose on 3rd July 2012, 08:55

As an experiment a couple of years back I sprayed my roses diligently every ten to fourteen days with a combination of chemicals and oils and I did keep the blackspot at bay and that's no mean feat for the Sydney Basin (the Blackspot capital of the world). I think I was successful for two reasons these being I started my spray program as soon as the new growth appeared as I subscribe to the theory the blackspot fungi enter a healthy rose plant at this stage and always sticking the spray timetable. I go to this trouble as my wife and I are keen exhibitors as well as administrators and to do well at exhibiting you must keep on top of the diseases and pests.

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Post by neptune on 3rd July 2012, 09:31

Doug....anything special in the chemicals that you used for the blackspot?....Do you have something over there that we don't have here?
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