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Post by The Estate on 12th May 2012, 13:47


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Post by jordan71 on 12th May 2012, 13:52

beautiful colours cheryl Smile
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Post by The Estate on 12th May 2012, 14:01

Thanks Jordan, something cheery for our yucky Melbourne weather Laughing
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Post by Guest on 12th May 2012, 14:33

This I photographed earlier in the week and is a favourite of mine due to its colour alone. Dame Élégant in all her glory

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Post by The Estate on 12th May 2012, 14:39

Love the colour, very trad. and elegant love
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Post by Carole on 12th May 2012, 14:48

Wonderful Warren,
She certainly lives up to her name, and I love the colour love
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Post by Guest on 12th May 2012, 14:51

She is a beaut Carole, I always stop when I walk past it to see those colour inside the bloom, its like a hidden treasure

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Post by Carole on 12th May 2012, 15:11

Is she one of your babies Warren.
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Post by Guest on 12th May 2012, 15:42

love sure is

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Post by Carole on 12th May 2012, 16:13

Clap Clap Clap Clap Clap

Fantabulous Dad.

I cant wait to see all your babies.
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Post by Carole on 12th May 2012, 16:17

Hands off, Wendy.
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Post by Rose-Anna on 12th May 2012, 19:32

Beautiful flowers Very Happy
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Post by rosemeadow on 12th May 2012, 23:40

Nice photos The Estate, and Warren.

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Post by Ozeboy on 13th May 2012, 03:58

Warren your rose is similar to one I picked up growing in front of one of my client's 1950's factories. Possibly a little more pink towards the centre but the fragrance is one to die for. Who bred it and what name I don't know. It has a study name "Lisa Treloar" as my daughter liked it so much. Growth is semi supple pillar type to 5'6". Could have two doses of Tea in it's heritage though the blooms are more high centered.
Would you like some budwood? Sorry I'm not into pix at this stage.
Rosemeadow has it also.

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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 13th May 2012, 05:48

Warren, nice rose as always. The colour is what drew me to it. The pollen parent, 'Cressida' from DA has a lot of influence on it I think. Have you done any other work with it yet. I can see in my mind something like it in hybrid tea form, decent length stems, = wedding bouquets, florist rose, does it have sent Warren, if not, the rose you cross it with might need to bring perfume with it.
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Post by Guest on 13th May 2012, 07:27

Dave when I first started breeding my direction was a rose with a big flowering head of blooms with a effortless and endless repeat cycle.
The bloom structure of these early roses was greatly varied as was the colours, but as I produced the F1 ---> F3 things changed, as they are easliy manipulated along with a sort of hybrid vigour. [b]Dame Élégant [b] has not been used yet in a breeding cycle, it does n't set hips so she is strictly a pollinator. I could see this going on Honor and creating something very good or an Austin type.

At the moment my quest in breeding is to create unique colours, last years seedlings were the start of this venture and the results were quite pleasing.

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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 13th May 2012, 07:48

Warren, do you think it is the pollen or seed parent of Dame Élégant that is not letting it set hips. Will we ever see it released or maybe budwood of it. scratch
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Post by Guest on 13th May 2012, 12:01

Dave sometimes seedlings comming from both fertile parents can be quite difficult to breed from. This rose will be released when the Aussie growers pull their fingers out, there too concerned about the imports.

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Post by Ozeboy on 16th May 2012, 08:55

Warren, do the local importers contract to the big overseas breeders on the basis of takeing a certain number of new ones each year.
Would appear they can't afford both overseas and local. Perhaps it's time for someone to open a nursery based on all local species, hybrids and Australian bred plants.
People are very much into buy local these days. When I see our brand on tools and other engineering produced products I know it will last.
Hang in there, keep breeding and try to test your seedlings on the mid eastern coast like Coffs Harbour or Brisbane.

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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 16th May 2012, 12:37

It's ok Bruce they can have an overnight stay in Mudgee before going north. lol!
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Post by Guest on 16th May 2012, 16:21

Bruce I know a few big growers are tied up with the big breeding houses of europe and the USA, on how much pull they actually have , I could n't tell you. There are a lot of people out there who would have Aussie bred roses in their gardens only if they access to them, and that is the problem. If I had the capital, I would nt hestitate opening an Ozzie rose only outlet, and then I would be cheeky enough to send them to where those imported roses come from.

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Post by Ozeboy on 16th May 2012, 21:40

Warren, I will suggest to my local nursery to have an Australian Bred Rose section. No doubt they will ask for details so will have to run this by the Australian Rose Breeders Assoc if my local nursery likes the concept.
Perhaps it's too early to approach them as a lot of trial work will need to be done. They need to grow as well as or better than the imports.
I'm really searching for benefits to negotiate with them and to find out their objections so as to come up with a plan.
Some of our locally bred roses are poor doers like Lubra and Waltzing Matilda, our plants have to be good..
Think about what roses you could make available. Also what return would be worthwhile. No doubt we would have to have a ticket printed and barcoaded for each plant.
Our proposition has to have benefits over the imports.

Just a few things to think about so will approach some of the biggies and guage their reaction. Call it a fact finding mission.
To be continued.

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Post by Guest on 20th May 2012, 09:50

this is a pic of a rose registered this year called Fine Dressin
taken yesterday

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Post by Carole on 20th May 2012, 11:03

I am in love love
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Post by Ozeboy on 20th May 2012, 11:50

Warren, 'Fine Dressin', well done, great shape, uniformity and colour.

We have the roses here but where is our merchandising and marketing?
Posting here won't result in sales but very nice to see you producing these quality roses.

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