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Post by Guest on 20th April 2012, 17:47

For those interested in Tea crosses
(Safrano X Gold Bunny)

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Post by Barbara B on 20th April 2012, 19:13

Golly, that's nice.
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Post by Balinbear on 20th April 2012, 22:03

Thats stunning.
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Post by Guest on 21st April 2012, 05:24

Thanks Barbara , Gary. I will probably buy in a few of Safrano this winter, this rose has more to offer than people think. Cross it with Gold Bunny, an open flower and you get the above, cross it with a classic HT and you get this.

it is so responsive in what you want to achieve, depending on what you cross it with. The only drawback is the seed is a little difficult to germinate.

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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 21st April 2012, 07:10

Do you use it for seed or pollen parent Warren
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Post by Guest on 21st April 2012, 07:39

I used Safrano as a seed parent Dave. There are good and bad things about that though.

Good thing is you get the hybrid vigour of growth and petals numbers being increased due to the addition of extra chromosomes.

Bad thing, the seeds can be hard to germinate, but when you do its all worth it.

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Post by OzRose on 21st April 2012, 14:10

Ooooooh I like. Mexican Wave
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Post by Balinbear on 22nd April 2012, 19:31

Warren
How is the bush form for the the Gold Bunny Cross?
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Post by Guest on 22nd April 2012, 19:58

Gary the bush is just under 3 ft and very bushy, you would nt be able to see through it.

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Post by Balinbear on 22nd April 2012, 20:42

Sounds like a nice bush.
How big does Safrano grow at your place?
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Post by Guest on 23rd April 2012, 05:51

around the same height

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Post by Ozeboy on 23rd April 2012, 09:20

Nice pix of Safrano's babies. I found more care is required pollinating it because the blooms open very fast which caught me unprepared on several occasions. My 2 year old bush is about 5' high and wide.
Like all Tea's it is super clean here on the coast.
Gary will add one to your list.

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Post by Barbara B on 23rd April 2012, 10:00

Hi,
I'm in Victoria and Safrano does well for me here. She's about a metre tall but not very dense.
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Post by Ozeboy on 23rd April 2012, 10:40

Barbara, I can just see through mine. There are quite a few canes coming from the Chip Budded graft. Last season budded ones are growing fast and like the mother look like being a nice shape.

It's a great trouble free garden rose.

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Post by Balinbear on 23rd April 2012, 13:12

Bruce

I have a couple of Safranos already. I was interested in comparing the size of the offspring with the parent as one of our Safranos is quite large and the other getting that way. They are both growing in terrible soil and get only a couple of hours sun each day (one very close to a gum tree that would probably be 200 years old). Which expalins why the foilage on ours is a lot more sparce than Warren's Safrano

Thanks anyway.

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Post by Guest on 26th April 2012, 15:41

Gary it depends what you cross them with, the Safrano X Gold Bunny seedlings have very dense foliage. The Safrano X Peace seedling is a bit more open.

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Post by Balinbear on 26th April 2012, 17:32

How did the Safrano Peace cross go.
Why I am asking is I have them side by side and both have hips on them.
We have a Maman Cochet also there but I understand it is generally infertile (does it still have pollen?) and also Marie Van Houtte across a driveway so who knows what the bees have been up to with them but I think it would be a good chance that it would be Peace/Safrano cross.
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Post by Guest on 26th April 2012, 19:02

Gary this is what you get when you Safrano X Peace absolute stunner and you should smell the perfume, (woody, spicey with vanilla)



The white Man Cochet is sterile, but I didn't realize it untill I had bought it, then it got shovelled. The Peace you are talking about is the Peace 1902?, the Peace I used was Meilland's.

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Post by Balinbear on 26th April 2012, 21:28

Yes I was talking about Peace 1902
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