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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 19th March 2012, 06:54

Bruce in your list at 'Glenorie Roses' I noticed that you have "Buccaneer", how does it grow at home ?
The other thing can they be sent and then certificates issued from that end, just a thought.
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Post by Ozeboy on 19th March 2012, 08:17

David, thanks for reminding me, will have to have a look around for Buccaneer. Must be in a pot or pots so can't answer your question at the moment how well it grows in a garden beds.

To be continued.

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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 19th March 2012, 12:27

The answer to that "it grows in a garden beds.. Many years gone by Bruce it was grown by my sister and I. Highly reccommended, large bush/plant, fantastic flower form, some BS, but could have been where it was grown and neglect. Thumbsup
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Post by Ozeboy on 20th March 2012, 20:47

David, thanks for answering your question to me.
Others that grow it claim it's very disease resistant, fraragrant and grows tall. Sounds like my sort of rose. Will look forward to finding it, possibly in this November budded understocks. They are covered in grass 3 feet tall so can't read any of the labels at present.
You forgot to mention it has 432 descendants.

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Post by Ausrose on 7th May 2012, 11:30

A yellow rose that is very popular in NSW is the hybrid tea Glorious. Mark McGuire has a number of buses and he has won the three full bloom champion ribbons at a number of shows in recent times. In Mark's garden the bushes are above 5ft and carry many flowers. The rose like many yellows can fade however Marks bushes only get the morning sun and the flowers don't fade. With respect to disease resistance in the blackspot "capital of the world" (i.e. Sydney Basin) Glorious is no worse or better than the majority of roses I have in my garden. The rose is available through Treloars as a bare root.

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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 7th May 2012, 11:55

Ausrose, you don't know anyone that has 'Buccaneer' growing do you,

Regards David.
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Post by Ausrose on 7th May 2012, 13:08

Thomas for Roses have it listed in their catalogue. Although Thomas for Roses don't have a website you can find a copy of their catalogue on the NSW Rose Society website.

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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 7th May 2012, 14:12

Thanks for that Doug, been looking everywhere for it. Thumbsup
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Post by Ozeboy on 7th May 2012, 20:11

Green E and Trewallyn have 'Buccaneer', I will have it next winter.

I'm having trouble finding a supplier of one to two year old plants.
All my new purchases arrive 3 year old or older field grown plants.
These do nothing when planted, just sit there and take ages if ever to recover transplanting. Possibly the only way to turn them into viable plants is to regraft them and shovel prune the old originals. The other gripe is wrongly labelled plants.

Currently I have an order for 25 with Thomases and received back a copy of the order confirming all were available. I have never ordered from them in the past but am very impressed with the way they confirmed the order. Their catalogue listings are huge so they do very well to keep that many available.

The best plants I have ever received were from Treloar's, very healthy, young plants with feeder roots over a foot long. All were correctly labelled and no viruses.

I'm hopeing the plants from Tomases are just as good as they have an unbelieveable list available.

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Post by Ausrose on 8th May 2012, 07:33

Ozeboy you will find some of the roses from Thomas for Roses to older than 2 year olds. I have purchased a number of roses from them over the years and have found all those I have purchased have grow into good bushes that have produced well in a similar time frame to roses I have purchased from other nurseries.

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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 8th May 2012, 07:43

Bruce any chance of listing the roses you have coming from Thomas's, thanks.
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Post by Ozeboy on 8th May 2012, 08:29

Thanks Ausrose, that's reassuring, great range and nice people.

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Post by betsyw on 9th May 2012, 18:07

Sidebar to yellow topic - And thank you from me, who has been trying to source Sweet Chariot outside of WA. Thomas, which is new to me, has it listed, yippee. (I'm assuming that SA has no border cordon sanitaire issues with NSW)

On topic: no one uses Valencia as yellow? Fair enough on the colour wheel, maybe not in line with other primary and butter yellows, but in my garden it looks prettydamnfine yellow ;-)
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Post by Ozeboy on 9th May 2012, 20:14

David, I like some privacy but heres the list just for you.
Avendal Mini
Baby Katie "
Golden Angel "
KO's Yellow "
Magic Carrosel "
Minuetto "
New Penny "
Over the Rainbow "
Party Girl "
Starina "

Alexander HT
Charlotte Armstrong "
Colour Wonder "
Crystalline "
Curley Pink "
Ena Harkness "
McGredy's Yellow "
New Yorker "
Prima Ballerina "
Remember Me "
Tassin "
Lavender Pinocchio Fl
Masquerade "
Guinee Clg

I only have 2 mini so just wanted to build them up so I have something to pack in my suitcase when it's my turn to go to a nursing home.
The Brownell roses are always on my list so Curley Pink will be here with Arctic Flame. Does anyone know of any other Brownell's in our country? All the others are just roses I want to try.

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Post by Carole on 9th May 2012, 22:12

Oh Bruce,
I know the list is just for David but I had to have a peek.
Wow what a list, you have been buying up big.
The Ko's Yellow I have heard fantastic reports on.
Mini's are most certainly coming into fashion now. Not just for small city gardens but for large gardens as borders/edges and feature beds. They will also grow so well in pots if all you have is a balcony.
So they are going to be in great demand over the next few years.
I am crossing mine with HT's this year, using the mini's for pollen.
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Post by Ozeboy on 9th May 2012, 22:30

I try out about 20 to 30 roses every year and keep those that do well and are healthy. There are a lot of duds out there with nice eye catching blooms only to be shovel pruned.
Pleased you like the list but was tempted to get the following Mini's but can't do more than plant 25 plus work the nursery besides.

Baby Bettina.
China Doll
Cricket.
Fire Princess.
Jean Keneally
Orange Honey
Plum Duffy
Top Gear.
Tracey Wickham.

That's your order for 2012 so I can get cuttings from you, or that will be my next seasons want list.

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Post by Ozeboy on 9th May 2012, 22:38

Carole I'm under the impression that size is passed on by the seed parent . Might be worthwhile trying crosses the other way round if you have any Mini's that make hips.

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Post by Barbara B on 10th May 2012, 08:20

Hi,
that list brings back a memory - I'm sure we had Tassin in my Dad's garden when I was a child. I've never heard the name since. Thanks for the memory.
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Post by Ausrose on 10th May 2012, 09:22

A yellow rose that grows particularly well in NSW is Gold Medal.Classed as grandiflora in Modern Roses 12 it has been very successful on the show bench in the decorative class over the years and on occasion has done well as an exhibition bloom. You will have noticed I made reference to the latest edition of Modern Roses. NSW originally and and now the National Rose Society of Australia use the latest edition of Modern Roses Modern to establish the classification of a rose. This was introduced to establish uniformity and to have a reference to stop arguing amongst rose groups.It would be in the best interest of rosarians if all those in the rose industry followed the system as often you find a rose classified differently in different publications and this can be confusing


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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 10th May 2012, 09:25

Yes I agree Doug about 'Gold Medal' it is in my garden, one that is going to be bred with.

Doug, "Modern Roses" that publication is put out by the ARS/AARS is that the 'world' governing body on classification


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Post by Ausrose on 10th May 2012, 09:40

"Modern Roses" that publication is put out by the ARS/AARS is that the 'world' governing body on classification "

David(roseman) I am not sure about whether the ARS is the governing body on classification and I suspect the WFRS is in there somewhere however I will find out and let you known.



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Post by Ausrose on 10th May 2012, 10:13

Sorry about that David - let us put it down to a senior's moment. I just spoke to the Secretary of the WFRS in South Australia and he told me because ARS had the resources to compile such a document as Modern Roses and the WFRS didn't Modern Roses was compiled by ARS with the endorsement of the WRS and for all intention purposes the publication is the official classification of roses. He did tell me it has become too expensive in hard copy even for the ARS and it will more than likely the next edition will only be available electronically.


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Post by neptune on 10th May 2012, 10:24

Modern Roses 12 $109 on ebay
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Post by Ozeboy on 10th May 2012, 18:47

David, Gold Medal looks like a really good rose, just about every nursery in Australia seems to have it. Very healthy, based on information available.

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Post by Carole on 10th May 2012, 21:39

Bruce, my mini's don't or havn't so far set hips. So I am using the pollen this time on HT's. This should give me some sort of florabunda, so I am told. Anyway it will be interesting to see what I get.
Next time I might try it on a florabunda and see how that turns out.
I work on - you never know what you will get if you never try.

How are your crosses going?
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