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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 8th March 2012, 05:56

Deb, again if you get the chance to get into the farmer stores, talk to them nicely and see if you can get hold of a fungicide powder called "cupric hydroxide" it is the best copper around. You will only need a cup full, it does come in big bags. Do you have any form of fruit/grape style of growing near you, they are a couple of industries that use it. With the three Warren mentioned you would the right stuff to combat your fungus problems.
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Post by lildeb on 8th March 2012, 12:04

The Bauple Nut Farm is across the road from us, tho we tell folk we are the real Nut Farm.. They grow macadamias so don't know if they use those things, I love copper tho, we use a lot of copper sulphate and dusting sulphur with the dairy goats... Tiaro Rural may have the stuff you have mentioned. Rolling Eyes
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Post by tambralyngar on 8th March 2012, 18:14

will try to get hold of some copper thanks for the help guys Smile
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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 14th March 2012, 16:49

Ok Warren, it has been made a sticky, we might rename it to " Dr Warren's Help Desk". what do you think and others can also reply.
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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 14th March 2012, 16:59

Ok, your the Dr, how is Karen(rosemeadow) going to get 9 hundred plus roses to Tas. Any idea off the top of the head fumigation rates and phytosanity prices for certificates scratch
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Post by Guest on 14th March 2012, 17:43

From what I can gather from previous conversations on this site, importing vegetative matter into TAS has some special requirements. Where you would get them fumigated I am not sure as I have never done it, but what I can gather the price for the Phytosanity Cert is around $45.

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Post by Carole on 14th March 2012, 18:04

Golly Gosh Warren, How many plants do you get for $45 .
Karen has over 900 roses plus heaps of other plants.
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Post by Guest on 14th March 2012, 18:29

From what I can gather it should cover all, googled and found out people can combine their plant consignments together to cut down costs

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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 14th March 2012, 18:40

From my understanding Warren, AQUIS has an office/branch in Dubbo. The funigation is going to be the costly side IMO.
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Post by Guest on 14th March 2012, 19:31

Not sure of the cost of Methyl bromide fumigation, what I would do is put the whole 900 in a shipping container and stick a hose in .

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Post by Alee on 14th March 2012, 19:43

Below link provides very detailed information about Methyl bromide fumigation. But costs not mentioned.

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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 14th March 2012, 20:35

I think Methyl Bromide, is nearly off the market.
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Post by rosemeadow on 14th March 2012, 22:28

Hey, I am just catching up here, great idea this permanent post Warren. And thankyou for your question David. I don't think it will cost me that much money, but I will look into it again tomorrow. I spoke to another fellow once and he mentioned about spraying them in a container. Only thing is I have got to keep the roots from drying out even though it is winter. The other thing is, will I be able to wash all the dirt off with a hose or a bath and a bit of scrubbing. I don't want to put a gurney on the roses roots incase I damage any finner roots.
Do I cut all the growth back or could I keep the canes as long as I strip any leaves that are left after frosts ? As I could lay them each longways in the car and trailer in a huge plastic bag that I have taped up. I could put cuboard laid over the top to keep the plastic from getting hot while travelling. Hopefully the fumigating could be sprayed into the bag in the tralier. Copuld I have wet paper or moss in with the roots to keep them moist, or would that stop the fumigatting from working ? I will ring the fellow at Dubbo tomorrow ( he was very helpful when I spoke to him before ) and Mistydowns.
I am not into prunning much, less its a rambler that needs cutting back a bit, so I would perfer to to leave the growth be that a rose has already grown. But if it is going to definitely drag it back in getting re established well I will prune them. Thanks for your help, everyone.

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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 15th March 2012, 06:09

I think you will find AQUIS, charge on time Karen, hourly rates. The bigger the plants longer the time = money. Don't forget to check with Tasmanian laws about imports, again from AQUIS. If everything from both ends are not right they will take the roses and destroy them.
IMO, because you have so many, pruning them back very hard might have to be done. How many trips do you think 900 plants will take. 900 pruned hard might fit in a big box trailer.
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Post by rosemeadow on 15th March 2012, 07:42

Yes you are right, I was just looking through the window at Sharifa Asma, thinking how she would need to be pruned as she would take too much room up. And times that by heaps even with the leavse gone. Will have to cut the roots back on them too.
My my new hybred teas, I don't think I could bring myself to cut off there new growth, will see.
I will see the authorities when I go over on to Tasmania in 4 weeks. Or ring today too I surpose so I know for sure now.

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Post by Guest on 15th March 2012, 16:01

Karen I would prune reasonably hard for such a trip, make sure that they are really healthy going into winter and when pruned , they will come out of it pretty quickly. Lets see 900 roses to prune , I have just over 700 and it takes me 24hrs of pruning or 3 days. Hope your hands and forearms are strong.

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Post by Alee on 15th March 2012, 16:05

Karen, don't forget to put the labels before you start pruning them.

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Post by Carole on 20th March 2012, 13:54

Warren,
When I pollinate roses (or any other plants) I tie a piece of stocking or frost cloth over the flower that I have pollinated.
How do you do yours ?
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Post by The Estate on 20th March 2012, 14:53

I am always having a rosy problem , if it is not one thing it is another Laughing Make you wonder why you persevere Suspect
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Post by Happy roses on 20th March 2012, 15:38

Seemed like a good idea at the time?
There's always something i gotta fix, it's enough to drive me barmy Willy
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Post by The Estate on 20th March 2012, 16:08

Happy roses wrote:Seemed like a good idea at the time?
There's always something i gotta fix, it's enough to drive me barmy Willy

Laughing Laughing Laughing All good fun at the time though.
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Post by Guest on 20th March 2012, 19:24

Carole when I pollinate flowers ,they are covered with an envelope which I make out of news paper, this must stay on for a minimum of 3 days. The stocking might be ok , but I am wondering about stray pollen blowing around in the wind could penetrate the weave of the stocking. Iam not paranoid LOL Willy

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Post by Carole on 21st March 2012, 13:10

lol!
Thanks Warren, I wasn't sure where you would have got the stockings from.
You didn't mention the frost cloth, I had always known it as fleese.
I will try the paper. I was worried about it going soggy and tearing if it rained..
Thanks for the minimum of 3 days as I have always left mine covered for ages.
I live and learn.
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Post by neptune on 8th April 2012, 17:29

I used to turn my soil over around the rose bushes, till I read that if you do , you damage all the small feeder roots and retard the plant growth. Why I used to do it was a person I knew, every autumn would go to the local park down the street.......rake up all the leaves for the council(he never got a thank you).........then go home and dig them into the rose garden....always have lovely roses.

So I am wondering what is the modern day thought about turning the soil over.....

also what is the easiest way of cleaning built up gunk of your pruners without resorting to a spinning wire brush?
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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 9th April 2012, 06:18

John, my roses do not get much help. But what help they get comes in the way as mulch. I am lucky enough tgo have a good supply of lucerne. I place it on in biscuit form and sometimes place it through a small shredder I have. The worms and bugs do the rest.
As for the secatuars, every now and then I totally pull them apart and place the them in a warm soapy water bath. On rebuilding them I oil all the moving parts, the bolt, where the blade and anvil meet, the spring and if yours are roll handled, that as well. I normally use sewing machine oil, but have recently been using air tool oil, very similar to machine oil.
Getting the gum/sap off, I again use hot soapy water and a tooth brush, dry them in the sun or old rag, then spray with WD40 or similar. Any natural oils will do the same if you are going to use them again.
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