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ID of some Roses.

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ID of some Roses.

Post by Tinpot on 18th December 2011, 15:09

Hi,
Hoping you might be able to help me with some rose ID's.
Please excuse the state they are in, we have had unusual humidity and more rain this than in the last ten years.

The following ones came from an old station homestead, and am curious to know what they are
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This yellow one seems to have a pink blush when fully open and had a sucker come up that looked like a climbing red rose.


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Ta in advance if you can help.

Cheers
Kim

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Re: ID of some Roses.

Post by Tinpot on 18th December 2011, 15:10

Embarassed Didn't change one to portrait , sorry.

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Re: ID of some Roses.

Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 18th December 2011, 16:36

Kim, your Red climber on your yellow rose is rootstock and it's name is 'Dr Huey'. I think you will have to dig down and find where it is coming from and cut off as clean as possible.
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Re: ID of some Roses.

Post by Tinpot on 18th December 2011, 16:55

Ta for that, I'm digging them all up when we move so I'll cut it back then.

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Re: ID of some Roses.

Post by Barbara B on 18th December 2011, 17:59

Hi,
the first one looks like Rosendorf Sparrieshoop. Number five looks like Cousin Essie.
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Re: ID of some Roses.

Post by Admin on 18th December 2011, 18:39

Number two looks like the Tea 'Comtesse de Labarthe' (aka 'Duchess de Brabant')

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Re: ID of some Roses.

Post by OzRose on 18th December 2011, 18:48

Hi Kim.
#1 looks like it may be Sparrieshoop to me
#3 could be Queen Elizabeth
#4 may possibly be Sea Foam
#5 Wedding Day perhaps ?

Have you joined Help Me Find [also known as HMF] Kim ?
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It's an invaluable resource and you can cross match the names that have been suggested to you with the roses on their data base to see if they match with your roses at home.


Good Luck on your Quest.

cheers. Rosalie
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Post by AutumnDamask on 18th December 2011, 21:11

Don't know if the flowers on #5 are big enough to be 'Wedding Day' ? Would have to see the stems and thorns... and back of leaves.
'Honey Flow' has smaller flowers like that (?) but mine is a small bush so can't comment on how it is supposed to be as an established plant.
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Re: ID of some Roses.

Post by Admin on 18th December 2011, 21:56

The ID on this one:

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... is going to be difficult because it looks like a multiflora or hybrid multiflora rose, however, a little more information might help us narrow it down. Firstly, does it only flower once or does it repeat bloom throughout the season? Can you tell us anything about it, like where it came from? There is a good chance it is an old understock whose top grafted section has died off leaving behind the multiflora stock. Does it have prickles? If so, where? Many of the multiflora plants used as understocks were thornless, or nearly so but nearly all have small prickles under the leaf (called the rachis). Could you take some diagnostic-type photos of things like the leaves (old and new), the flowers, the buds, if you have a macro setting on your camera the anthers in the middle of the flower, prickles, the base of the leaves, etc. Does it smell sweet and a little 'fruity' and does it form lots of small red/orange hips in Autumn? This will improve the chances of a positive ID... or at least narrow down the field. It's going to be a long shot on this one, however, given its similarity to lots of others roses.

Cheers,

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Re: ID of some Roses.

Post by Guest on 19th December 2011, 08:59

No. 1 is not ‘Rosendorf Sparrieshoop’, 1988. That has more petals than the foundling.
It may be ‘Sparrieshoop’ 1953 which is a small climber and has flowers of about 4 inches wide.

No. 2 Might be ‘Comtesse de Labarthe’

No. 3 is ‘Queen Elizabeth’

No. 4 Don’t know

No. 5 is not ‘Cousin Essie’ which has more petals than the foundling.
No. 5 is not ‘Honey Flow’ which has a pale pink edge to the petals
No. 5 is not ‘Wedding Day’, Stern, 1950. See Margaret’s photo on HelpMeFind for the distinguishing mucronate-tipped petals of this rose.
No. 5 may be R. multiflora ‘Nana’. (The nana means small). Jim Delahanty’s photo, on HelpMeFind is the closest to what it should look like. The bush grows to half a metre, and the individual bloom (not meaning the cluster here) is only about an inch wide. See http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.40647

No. 6 (the yellow) Don’t know.


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Re: ID of some Roses.

Post by Admin on 19th December 2011, 16:58

Should also add, as additions to the information requested about No. 5, what is its habit like? Does it climb or ramble and if so to what height if allowed?

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Post by Guest on 20th December 2011, 09:01

I have the impression that multiflora seeds readily, and the seedlings are in two groups; small repeat-flowerers, and spring-flowering climbers. People used to sell packets of "fairy rose" seed (sounds like a con to me), and the seedlings were mostly small-flowered single white or pink shades.
There are some large-flowered climbers around, but maybe they're the ones that gardeners are more likely to keep.
A lot of my "foundlings" have turned out to be understocks.


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Re: ID of some Roses.

Post by Tinpot on 20th December 2011, 13:39

Thank you for the ID's.
I'll have a go with that help me find as well.
I have copied the questions and will take some more photos.
Thanks
Kim

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Re: ID of some Roses.

Post by Lauriek on 23rd January 2012, 14:43

No. 3 = Queen Elizabeth

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