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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 6th December 2011, 16:05

Glad to put some of my up-til-now-useless-information to good use.

This was posted on another thread and I pinched it to here for awhile. So can we know a little about this gathered "useless" info, your garden, anything that you do not mind shareing with our members.
GDay from David(roseman)
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Post by LiliB on 8th December 2011, 11:26

Hi Roseman
I'm the typical 'open book' when it comes to sharing my ideas, knowledge, and experiences so here goes.

I have loved roses for years. We lived in Melbourne prior to coming to the Riverina and had a large garden in Bacchus Marsh, where we could indulge our love of gardening. Both David and I learned about propogating roses and developed large rose beds there composed of just a few varieties we propagated from cuttings. We also grew a myriad of different exotics, mainly perennials and a few annuals.

When we moved to Deniliquin the house we bought was devoid of any garden. Over the last 17 years we learned what would grow here and what wouldn't. Generally it was the hard way - if the searing summer sun didn't kill your plants the winter frosts would. Many of my earlier planting efforts had lots of RIP tags marking the demise of yet another experiment. Smile

Finally we settled on roses, as they seemed to do well here. They became the focus of our garden and an obsession for me. I read everything I could get my hands on and became acquainted with some of the best. 'Classic Roses for Australian Gardens' was a starting point, as I visited specialist growers from Healesville to Wangaratta. We even made the pilgrimage to Rustons and the Renmark Rose Festival.

One day David suggested I may like a front rose garden. He didn't know what he was letting himself in for. I mapped out the whole front yard on graph paper with rose plantings, designed beds and paths, and gave him a 'blueprint' to follow. We incorporated a dripper system for each new rose and hooked everything up to a computer. I became 'the rose lady' and people knew us by our front garden.

All the while, here was all that love, knowledge and experience that I couldn't share. We have over 100 named varieties, mainly HTs and have used up practically every inch of ground to garden. I'm still learning and still culling poor performers and replacing them over time.

But I love to share my love of things with others, so I have high hopes for this forum. I've learned a fair bit about how some roses perform in extreme conditions but I am still looking for ways to get the best out of them. There's really no one to share my love of roses here, so I'll participate wherever possible in the forum. AND I'll be asking questions, so you gurus, be prepared. Smile

My first crop of the year is gone, so photos will not really do full justice to my plantings, but I fully intend to put some pics on soon.
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Post by tambralyngar on 8th December 2011, 16:32

Look forward to hearing all you have to share with us, and to see your wonderful sounding garden. You soundlike one of the "guru's" to me I only started growing roses this year so I am certain you will be a wealth of knowledge for me and others Smile
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Post by Ozeboy on 8th December 2011, 20:00

Welcome LiliB, hope you enjoy your stay and contribute with words of wisdom gleaned from your past experiences.

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Post by Balinbear on 8th December 2011, 21:39

Yes it must be amazing the amount of knowledge stored in our collective minds regarding what plants do well where and when.
It probably only needs a bit of a kick to get it out.
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Post by Guest on 8th December 2011, 22:02

LiliB - Out of curiosity, which are your favourite roses? We live close (kind of - Brisbane & Sunshine Coast).
I have only been growing roses this year and I am interested in some that grow well with our weather Smile

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Post by LiliB on 9th December 2011, 11:27

Hi Tish
Having had a quick look around the roses today, I think a common denominator as to which do best here, is a thick, heavy leaf. The two Peace varieties, Chicago Peace and Kronenberg (Flaming Peace), do very well, along with Royal Highness. They have very thick, fleshy leaves, which I suspect can do better in heat, than say, the soft leaved David Austins.

Three David Austins do well - albeit with some leaf burn and deterioration in bloom size in extremely hot weather - Charles Austin, Pat Austin (the most luscious orange colour) and Graham Thomas (outstanding yellow). Others I've tried just sulk, only performing well in Spring and Autumn.

The best reds are definitely Mr. Lincoln (surprise, surprise - oh how boring the old timers say) but it's got beautiful blooms, long stems and a wonderful perfume. Then there's Fragrant Cloud which is both fragrant and a gorgeous bloom, more vermillion red than Mr. L. A red called Tatiana has a wonderful perfume and very pleasing foliage.

The orange, apricot prize goes to Just Joey, with Apricot Nectar not far behind. Both are lovely, well formed bushes, and repeat very quickly. Just Joey has the most delicate, gorgeous sheen on it, like satin on the young blooms. It's very forgiving and produces masses of flowers throughout the season.

The easiest, most trouble free to grow are Monica, a florists rose of orange and yellow, which produces cartloads of flowers throughout the season. Duet is outstanding both in flower production and ease of growing. It flowers right into the winter, til the first frosts come.

Lastly I'll mention Granada, a parent of Double Delight (one of the best bi-colours in the business). It has blooms like oversized clusters of sweet peas, and a wonderful perfume.

And the one that I think produces outstanding exhibition blooms, Lolita. If you want to enter your local rose show, a good Lolita will Smile beat anything the local old dears can produce (and they'll hate you for it, which is why I don't enter, it's not a fair contest, me with my big choices, them with their half dozen pampered HTs Laughing )

Nuff said, it's like asking me to choose my favourite child. Not easy. Will post pictures of some of these, when I get a burst of energy in the near future.
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Post by LiliB on 9th December 2011, 11:36

Just a quick note, Tish, about deadheading your bushes. Try and get out a couple of times a week and cut all your dead and spent flowers off the bush. This ensures repeat flowering. Deadheading frequently ensures an almost continuous supply of blooms. It's also an opportunity to examine your bushes for die-back (blackened or brown segments) which can be removed, and any disease or insect problems.

Have a good look at where the next buds are on your stems, and cut to the one that will give your bush a good shape, generally an outward growing bud. (On rare occasions you can cut to an inward growing one, to correct shape, but very rarely.)
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Post by Guest on 9th December 2011, 13:04

Hi LilliB

Thanks so much for all your info. I try and cut all the dead/dying flowers & leaves off daily, or every few days so it looks like I'm going in the right direction Smile

I have Chicago Peace and Kronenbourg. They have the most amazing large flowers which I never knew even existed in roses until they bloomed!

I also have a David Austin (just one) called Falstaff. So far it has really thrived in the heat and is massive! Lovely flowers too.

I have a Mr Lincoln, it has only given me 1 disappointing flower so far. My Grandma told me it would be the most magnificent flower, as it lasted a day and died Sad perhaps it needs to be more settled in before it gives me better roses?

I have added Monica, Granada & Lolita to my list Smile Hopefully I can find them somewhere to buy.



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Post by LiliB on 9th December 2011, 13:47

Hi Tish,
Persevere with Mr. Lincoln. If you don't have any luck, consider Oklahoma which has the exact same breeding as Mr. Lincoln and also performs well. It is just a touch darker in flower, but has the same magnificent perfume.

I think sometimes we just get the runt of the litter when we buy a rose, and it never quite comes up to expectation. I've become quite brutal about getting rid of non-performers. Life's too short to put up with a poor performer and it's not like there aren't a myriad of wonderful roses to try.

I got one called Best Friend which is an absolute beauty. Fairly recent (2003) , tall, robust, covered in flowers., pretty pinky-mauve, gorgeous perfume. Yet I bought another one at the same time, Gift of Grace (2002) and it's not worth a cracker. Has struggled for the same period of time that Best Friend has put into decent development and produced only a couple of puny blooms. It's in the sights of my gun and is probably entitled to feel quite nervous about its future Laughing



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Post by Guest on 9th December 2011, 16:00

Thanks Smile I'll definitely check out Oklahoma.

And I do have best friend, it has amazing flowers and the scent is incredible. Although, I've only ever had 3 flowers from it? It's still new to our garden though.

I've gotten rid of some that were pre-existing in our garden, I felt mean but I just didn't like them. Haha.

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Post by LiliB on 9th December 2011, 16:44

Best Friend will just bolt, once it's established. Mine is still what I regard as an infant (only in its second season) and has about 20 blooms with more to come. AND this is its second crop this year. Now that's what I call a good baby!!
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Post by Guest on 9th December 2011, 17:04

I think that's my main problem, none of mine are 'established' yet. And the ones that do really well and shoot up and flower a lot I expect all of them to to the same Sad

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