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Breeding with Tea's and China's, with a different view.

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Breeding with Tea's and China's, with a different view.

Post by Guest on 1st October 2011, 12:13

At the moment I have hips forming on a few Tea's and China's. When you see what I have used in the cross, you might ask why. This is to radically change the whole shape of the bloom to give it a more modern look and at the same time using the health of the China's/Tea's so the offspring can be grown in more warmer and humid climate.

Bon Silene - Chrysler Imperial, ((Altissimo X Perume Delight) X Curly Pink)


Ten Thousand Lights (china)- Dr A J Verhage, David Lowing

Old Blush (china)- (Arjuna X Curly Pink), Laurent Carle

Almerta Orchard Pink - (Queen Elizabeth X Lyon Rose)

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Post by Ozeboy on 1st October 2011, 15:00

Warren, I have been thinking along those lines for the past 3 years and slowly building up suitable breeders. I have most of the good Tea's and China's with a good histiry of breeding, same as with the HT's. Have left it a bit late in life to achieve a great deal but want to see some beautiful blooms to show for the work.

Looks like the Laurent Carle X Lorraine Lee is not working as the first stem has died. Have two more and if that doesn't work then will give LL away as a breeder. LC produced a lot of hips last year so will cross my fingers.

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Post by Guest on 1st October 2011, 15:14

Bruce I would not waste my time using Lorraine Lee as a seed parent, alot do not set and those which do have no seed in the hip but fibres. Use it as a pollinator works best that way.

Here is a cross I did a few years ago First Love X Safrano, I don't think it will be anything but I keep it as a novelty, it completely sterile and the price you pay sometimes when you create triploids.

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Post by Guest on 18th September 2012, 16:11

This seedlind bred back in 2010 is a cross of Mutabilis X Belle Story. Its first bloom looked like this.



and with another year under its belt , it has added a few more petals and had a slight colour change



This is what the foliage looks like, very China looking.



You may look at these a say they are average looking blooms, but these are to be crossed with Moderns and other China hybrids which I have developed, to created a series of roses which can be grown up the eastern seaboard from Sydney to Rockhampton. These little creations hopefully will be BS resistant.

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Post by RosyTeesh on 18th September 2012, 16:17

I think the colour and shape is pretty Smile Does it have a scent? What are you going to cross it with?
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Post by Guest on 18th September 2012, 16:27

Its pretty cool here and it hasn't released much scent. I have a few of mine which are pretty disease free and the other Tea/ China hybrids I have developed over the years to do back crossing

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Post by RosyTeesh on 18th September 2012, 16:55

Would love to see more of them!
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Post by Guest on 19th September 2012, 15:12

This little Mutabilis seedling's bloom is now fully open.



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Post by AutumnDamask on 19th September 2012, 16:00

Ooooohhhh isn't she lovely!
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Post by Guest on 19th September 2012, 16:07

Thanks Wendy, has a nice perfume as well.

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Post by silkyfizz on 19th September 2012, 20:28

I love the delicacy - colour, shape, petals all have a fairy-like quality.
Ozroz, I noticed the flowers change as they mature. How long is this "change" process? How do you know when it has reached its final form?
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Post by Guest on 20th September 2012, 05:04

It first bloomed in its first year , the semi double, the double form, happened recently.

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Post by Ozeboy on 20th September 2012, 06:00

Congratulations Warren, well done, these are very desireable roses with a difference. Now to work on blooms,form and fragrance while keeping the health.

Recently I went to the Homes and Gardens Exhibition and noticed all the high maintainence plants were no where to be seen. These seem to have been taken over by improved hardy natives. Would one day like to see your roses there.

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Post by Carole on 20th September 2012, 10:38

That is lovely Warren
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Post by Guest on 20th September 2012, 14:31

Bruce bloom form is the easy part to manipulate its all the others traites which need to be approached with care

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Post by Guest on 20th September 2012, 19:00

Thanx Carole

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Post by Balinbear on 21st September 2012, 19:27

"improved hardy natives"

Pushed onto teh average gardener to grow in areas that are not suitable for them.
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