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This could end in failure...

Post by AutumnDamask on 25th September 2011, 14:05

.... but it is what I had on hand. (Arch in foreground)

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Post by Admin on 25th September 2011, 14:10

Is pretty cool and will look great with a few climbers draped over it Thumbsup what do you have in mind for it?

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Post by AutumnDamask on 25th September 2011, 14:23

Well, I have my "red bed" on the left hand side of it and pinks on the right. But the arch isn't *quite* lined up with the one in the background. So, to improve the illusion I have 'Aimee Vibert' on the left and 'Mme Dreout clg" on the right.

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Post by Ozeboy on 25th September 2011, 19:12

Try to brace it and include some treated posts as steel reo and square tube can bend in very strong winds when there is a lot of growth for it to support.

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Post by Admin on 25th September 2011, 19:20

It looks like star pickets, Bruce. I was thinking they could be banged into the ground a lot more... about halfway even... having the steel frame braced with something is a great idea.

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Post by Balinbear on 25th September 2011, 19:30

We have a couple of older arches like this. The weight of the roses (mind you they are large Noisettes or teas so smaller lighter climbers may not affect it as much) soons distorts the arch flattens the top and pushes it (and the posts) sideways. We had 6 or so of these and only two left. We have replaced them with pipe arches or timbeer pergolas.

One of those left is ok because the rose has grown up the tree next to the arch so there is not really much weight on it. The other one is covered by a Souv de Madam Leonie Vernott which has flattened the top and pushed the posts out sideways but it appears to have reached the limt and the roase is holding the arch up.
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Post by AutumnDamask on 25th September 2011, 21:23

Heh. I know it's not ideal - and didn't send the steel posts down further because I felt there wouldn't be enough upright then for the height of the mesh to brace against.
I was going to see how it went and, if necessary, thought I can always cut the roses back and replace the arch.

And if Aimee decides to flatten the top of the arch.. well, good thing I'm short. :p
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Post by Admin on 25th September 2011, 22:55

There are lots of little things you could do to shore it up more... you can add two spreader poles (front and back) to the top of the arch. You can drive two more pickets in on either side and attach the arch to these too. You could add stays using fence strainers to either corner with more pickets driven in deep at an angle towards the arch, front and back. You could use a post-hole digger to dig out four holes at each corner and replace the star pickets with treated pine posts and cement them into the ground using quickset (star pickets bend pretty easily).ETC... Lots of ideas Cool

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Post by AutumnDamask on 26th September 2011, 06:37

LOL Looks like some reno work will be undertaken before summer (while I can still dig).
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Post by Carole on 29th December 2011, 22:51

What sort of arch did you end up putting in ?
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Re: This could end in failure...

Post by AutumnDamask on 30th December 2011, 05:58

No change so far.... lack of funds. Very Sad
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Post by Carole on 30th December 2011, 11:12

We have the same problem Very Sad also.
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Post by newforold on 30th December 2011, 15:05

My goodness, what a glorious view through the arch!
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Post by AutumnDamask on 30th December 2011, 15:23

It is a wonderful view. Smile Smile (Makes up for the howling gale that comes from Tassie!)
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Post by Carole on 30th December 2011, 16:12

That is Simons fault roflmao
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Post by Admin on 30th December 2011, 17:51

Hey... I cop it first! At least I'm sapping 50% of its strength by the time it gets there Wink

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Post by AutumnDamask on 30th December 2011, 20:51

Yikes. If only 50% gets here I'd hate to see what you get!!

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