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Post by Balinbear on 21st July 2011, 21:29

We have purchased a "Lorna Doone" found rose from Penny at Pittsworth. Its not the Burbon listed on Help Me find.

It is refered to as a Tea and is a pale yellow color. It appears to be a bit of a climber/large shrub.

After a bit of comparison I think it may be Rev d'Or.

Has anyone heard of or seen this rose?
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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 22nd July 2011, 06:10

Gary could this be the rose you are talking about,
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Post by Balinbear on 22nd July 2011, 10:19

Thanks Dave/Simon

I had looked at that link when I did a search for it. It is definately not a cluster flowering florabinda.

It is a Tea or Noisette and I'm positive it is Rev d'or I am just wondering if anyone else had come across it and to see if it is just doing a Rev d'or look a like in my conditions.

My wife has seen a bigger version (ours in only new) and said that our flower is typical of the plant and that the one she saw was growing like a climber but was being grown as a shrub.
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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 22nd July 2011, 12:26

Gary, I have not got time at present(lunch), I was looking at David Rustons list somewhere of roses under review, I wasn't looking for LD but will look tonight/tomorrow morning, might be in there.
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Re: Lorna Doone found rose

Post by Balinbear on 22nd July 2011, 12:42

Dave

Yes it is in the list. Just says Climber found Darling Downs.

I will see if I can contact Margaret about it.
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Post by Admin on 22nd July 2011, 16:53

Gary,

Do you have 'Reve d'Or' to grow it side by side? If not I can send you up some cuttings.

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Post by Balinbear on 22nd July 2011, 20:19

Simon
Thanks but we have a couple of quite large Rev d'Ors. One is resonably cloose which is how I first noticed the simularitiy.
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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 23rd July 2011, 07:48

Here we go again, there should be a link to Ruston's here Gary,
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Gary if you have found this link/page does not matter, I was on the hunt, something to do at present as is minus 2 at present.
My other question on this rose is, who is Penny of Pittsworth scratch
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Re: Lorna Doone found rose

Post by Balinbear on 23rd July 2011, 18:23

Sorry Dave. Penny McKinlay has a rose nursery at Pittsworth. Actually most of the nursery is on the footpath. She has special permission form the local Council to keep her plants on the footpath.

She has a lovely garden as well. Apparently the rose was found at Warwick and was thought that is was a climbing version of Anna Olivier or Lady Roberts. It is not Anna Olivier and whilst the open flower is similar to lady Roberts the bud colour is different. Our LR starts off as being nearly orange before fading to a pale yellow like Lorna Doone as the flower opens.

The plant at Rustons has not been put in the ground as yet so they can't give any information about it.

I will probably have to sit and wait and see how it goes.
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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 23rd July 2011, 19:08

Thanks Gary
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Post by Balinbear on 12th September 2011, 21:29

After a bit more growth and more detailled comparision I longer believe Lorna Doon is Rev d'or. The leaves, buds and thorns don't really match. And the flower seems to have more petals than Rev d'Or. It is still a very young plant but it has in the past week or so sent up two shoots reaching 1.2 metres high and are still going so it is obviously some sort of climber.

It is now in its second flush in the 3 or so months we have had it so it is obviously a repeat flowerer and thus not a rambler.

Have a look and let me know what you think.

Lorna Doon
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Rev d'Or appears to have fewer petals
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Lorna Doon seems to flower in clusters
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Rev d'Or usually does not flower in clusters
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Lorna Doon has round leaves with pronounced serrated edges
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Rev d'Or has narrower leaves and less pronounced serrations
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Lorna Doon has lots of thorns
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Rev d'Or does not have as many thorns and are more curved back.
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Re: Lorna Doone found rose

Post by IanM on 12th September 2011, 21:57

Thanks Gary. I have seen this rose in all its glory and it has long puzzled me. In some ways it resembles Gloire de Dijon, but is not quite as full and it lacks the pink highlights.

I often wonder if this might have been an Alistair Clark rose? It doesn't match any of the ones I know, but could he have produced trial plants that could have ended up as rootstock?? It looks like something he may have bred... lots of obvious Gigantea influence, big robust climber, showy flowers. Just a thought!
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Post by Bonita18 on 15th September 2011, 21:14

When Penny first received this plant, she gave me one to observe. It was one of five plants taken from cuttings from Doone Cottage at Warwick where a woman called Lorna lived. I potted it into a very large tree black plastic pot and in no time at all it had sent out very long canes. At first it was thought to be Anna Olivier which I grow. That opinion was soon revised and it certainly did not grow like Anna Olivier does. In the meantime I had given my plant to a friend out on the western Darling Downs where it spreads to its heart's content. I now wish I had kept it to put somewhere near Anna Olivier.

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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 16th September 2011, 06:20

Bonita, I guess you can't get cuttings off yopur freind by chance to share around. scratch
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Post by Balinbear on 16th September 2011, 10:12

Unfortunately our Anna Oliviers are very small. They are a couple of years old but are struggling. I think the root stock may be a bit suss.

My plant is only a few months in the ground. When It gets larger (as it sure looks like it will) I will share some cuttings.
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Post by IanM on 4th October 2011, 23:40

Last time I was at Penny's nursery she still had literally dozens of this rose available. All are cutting grown and at the moment most are flowering. It flowers early and often and I recall Penny saying it can be grown as a large shrub with some careful pruning. I suspect it would be always wanting to send out huge canes though.
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Post by Balinbear on 15th January 2012, 22:47

I took these photos this morning of a flower from "Lorna Doone" and Rev d'or.

I think Lorna is on the left but I am not positive as I dropped the flowers.
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