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Post by utumoa on 2nd June 2011, 18:13

Is there a black rose available at all? I know there are engineered and have successfully grown black tulips so would like to try a rose as well
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Post by neptune on 2nd June 2011, 23:32

I think the scientist have tried this as well as blue ones without success
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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 3rd June 2011, 06:24

To the best of my knowledge there is no black rose available and that also goes with blue.
There seems to be no black or blue genes in the rose family, they have tried to import blue genes with limited success. I think it was Japanese/Australian consortium.
When Ozroz reads this he will be able to shed more light on it as he is a breeder of roses.
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Post by utumoa on 3rd June 2011, 18:33

shame. the photoshopped ones look beautiful
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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 3rd June 2011, 19:29

Can you explain please as I am lost.
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Post by Guest on 3rd June 2011, 21:15

Dave its called photo manipulation, colours are intensifed more than what they really are.

Utumoa there is an American fellow from the NW USA who has bred some very dark roses, If you go on Helpmefind , go to breeders and put in Barden. Have a look at these .
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Dave with the blue rose , blue genes were put in but the Ph in rose plants has caused problems.

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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 4th June 2011, 06:14

Memory test here Warren , whih plant did they take the blue gene from, I can't remember scratch
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Post by Guest on 4th June 2011, 06:27

Howdy Dave , the article I read , said it was a blue petunia, bloody hell , what would you call it a Rostunia or Petunirosa roflmao

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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 4th June 2011, 06:43

Morning Warren, I thought it was a Gladi or a tall plant like it
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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 4th June 2011, 06:58

Warren, I had a look at the Paul Barden roses, none jumped out at me, although the second last, 27-07-16, IMO was the best of them. I wonder if it would hold that colour as it ages and how do you think it would cope here in OZ
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Post by Guest on 4th June 2011, 07:13

Dave i was pointing out to utumoa about very dark roses, it is amazing how you cross a mauve rose with a dk orange come russet , it darkens it to a purply red. I think the colour would hold, but being a dark colour and being in OZ the petals might scorch due to it absorbing more heat from the sun. Something you would have to trial in this country

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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 4th June 2011, 07:25

Thanks Warren, if it would turn like Mr L in the heat, it is not for me.
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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 4th June 2011, 07:29

catch you later, have to go and cut firewood, 0.8 at present and to get colder. Thanks for all the info, regards David.
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Re: Black rose

Post by Alee on 4th June 2011, 11:02

The Blue pigment was from Pansies. Here's the link.

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Post by Guest on 4th June 2011, 12:20

Hi Alee, an other group used the pigment from petunias and it was found that petunia ph was more acidic than roses, when put into roses it turned pink.

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