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Post by Alee on 24th May 2011, 16:51

Bruce, how does Madame Isaac Pereire perform in your climate. I am wondering how it will perform here.

Anyone tried growing Madame Isaac Pereire in a hot and humit climate?

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Post by sallybcs on 24th May 2011, 17:40

Alee
I had MIP in Brisbane for a couple of years. The first flush was nice but not a lot of repeat after that, it may have got better as it matured. I tried to grow it over a small arch but it was not very flexible. I have heard that it does well pegged but I was not able to do that. It got plenty of blackspot for me and I gave up on it. Having said that it may do better with more attention, I usually don't give extra water after the first few months and I don't spray. It grew and flowered but looked like a mangy dog and didn't thrive so I got rid of it.

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Post by Balinbear on 25th May 2011, 19:56

Alee
Ours does not go all that well. Lots of blackspot and yes nice flowers but a very scraggly schrub. Not really sure why we still have it actually.
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Post by Alee on 25th May 2011, 20:16

I've seen the pictures on HMF and would love to grow it. I wanna know what Ozeboy says about it.

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Post by larryp on 25th May 2011, 21:02

Dunno whether you'd consider Sydney hot and humid Alee but our summers are plenty hot and sticky.
Grew MIP for a couple of years and then discarded her. Nice flowers, nice perfume but a disease ridden scraggly old Madame she was.
Not worth growing where it's hot and humid

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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 26th May 2011, 06:09

Alee, this is from HMF and it is what they say about growing areas, so I think you could have trouble with it.
USDA zone 5b through 10b. Prefers cool sites.. Disease susceptibility: susceptible to Mildew.
You might have to look for another pink or put up with the mildew.
Alee, any idea what zone you might be in.
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Post by wphvet on 26th May 2011, 12:08

Alee,
we live near wisemans ferry and MIP has done well for us,no real disease and it isn't sprayed.
Not very flexible but is okay on a pillar,heaps of spring flowers and is flowering again at present but much less so.
Another Bourbon we have Louise Odier has been similar in performance but more flexible.
regards Steve

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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 26th May 2011, 17:43

wphvet(peter from memory) as you are at Wisemans Ferry would your humidity be anywhere near Alee's over in the Maldives.
Many years ago we used to ski from Sackville down to WF in Summer, can't remember if it got Humid. scratch
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Post by Alee on 26th May 2011, 19:40

Roseman, I think ours would be zone 10b or 11. the average humidity is 80% and the average temperature is around 31 C.

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Post by Ozeboy on 27th May 2011, 10:05

Sorry Alee, have been very busy lately and had a trip to hospital that was worrying but has worked out well.

I would agree with bilinbear and am thinking of discarding it due to untidy growth. The wonderful fragrance has prevented me from tossing it out.

There are a lot of good roses for your climate by Alister Clark like 'Argosy',
'Editor Stewart'. Tea's like 'Devonensis', 'Mrs.B.R.Cant' also vase well.
This season I bought in 'Roundelay' both bush and climber due to it's good growth in heat and humidity. It's early days but I love the blooms.

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Post by RitaG on 28th May 2011, 11:28

Alee, I was always taken aback by the MIP that a great rosey friend, Jen grew in her massive garden out at Canowindra in NSW's central west.

Here is an old scan of an old photo taken in 2000 at one of our get togethers. Pictured in front of the arch propped up by MIP is Tamara. I'm sure Tam won't mind me posting this old pic.

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I grew MIP at my previous garden up an Illawarra Flame Tree along with Clair Matin, it faired ok, but not terrific. I am now growing it in my new garden, planted last October, has had good growth, some flowers, but too early to tell if she will come to anything here. Here is a link to my photobucket pics, she is the rose to the left of the Jacaranda. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

BTW - I too have a no spray garden as I let all the birds eat the bugs and the wind mostly takes care of the disease.
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Post by neptune on 28th May 2011, 13:13

The link shows that the photo has been removed or deleted
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Post by rosemeadow on 28th May 2011, 19:20

Nice photo, Rita.
I was looking forward to seeing a bit more of your new garden.

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Post by RitaG on 29th May 2011, 06:52

Sorry about that, maybe this link will work, it says it will insert a slide show of all the shots I have in the album (for the back yard) - if not click on 'view all' and it should take you direct to the site. The most recent pic is the one with MIP on the back fence near the Jacaranda.

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