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Have bred minatures

Post by Guest on 8th April 2011, 17:58

This is a rose I bred years ago, I was using a minature as a pollinator over a HT to get floribunda's. It is so dark, almost black sometimes.



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Post by Admin on 8th April 2011, 20:15

Warren, this is a lovely dark colour. I would like to see a whole plant photo.

One thing that I think you should be aware of, however, on a unrelated thing completely, is that you should think about not adding the names of your roses to your pictures or using the names of your roses in your posts if you are in discussions with Treloars or other producers who may want to turn around and get a PBR on your roses. Publishing them here might affect whether a PBR will be granted because they can turn around and say that the rose has already been released to the public. Jim Sproul had this happen to him a while back where he mentioned one of his new seedlings by name on his website along with photos and the patent office trawled through the internet when deciding whether or not to grant the patent and found this reference to his rose and gave him a hard time over it. Australian PBR rules are pretty similar and so I would hate for you to jeopardise any chances you have by an innocent reference made to them on here. When they are registered they can still be covered by a PBR afterwards and this makes it hard for us here to talk about them if we want to patent them later.

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Post by OzRose on 9th April 2011, 11:52

It's okay to refer to them with a code name ?
Like this red minature beomes TRM2011 or something ?

The legalities of it all are mind boggling. I didn't realise that showing a named picture of a flower could constitute being released to the public . How weird , especially if you own the only plant .

Learn something new everyday.

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Re: Have bred minatures

Post by Admin on 9th April 2011, 12:20

So long as the code name is not mentioned anywhere in the PBR application. On one hand I hate patent rules/regs but on the other it takes so much time and effort to raise special seedlings that I think it is only reasonable to try and protect any potential income one could derive from it. PBR rules are such a mine field... luckily only the best seedlings should ever be considered for it (IMO). It's only difficult when the photo can be directly linked to a particular rose. For instance, your lovely avatar has a randomly named file name. It could never be traced back should you decide to PBR it.

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Post by RitaG on 9th April 2011, 15:09

I love this colour Warren! Wow! I just so love blue/black reds rather than orange reds.

You're right Rosalie, legalities are mind boggling, the logic and language used almost sound alien at times.
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Post by Guest on 1st October 2011, 08:16

Here are a couple more mini/miniflora's that I have bred through the years. The apricot/orange one has a bit of thrip damage, I dont show rose blooms so thrips don't worry me that much.
















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Post by The Lazy Rosarian on 1st October 2011, 08:33

Warren, the 'Earth & Sky" is fantastic. What is the one 2 below it, I think that one could become something IMO
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Post by Guest on 1st October 2011, 08:52

Dave; The photo does not do it justice , it is Dream Catcher. I was just walking around outside while the rain had stopped and looked down at my little Popcorn and thought it would go well with Queen Of Bourbons. Just imagine a minature with OGR form and perfume. Queen of Bourbon when crossed with moderns gives some repeat flowering offspring.

Earth and Sky is a good grower here, nothing sems to bother it.

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Post by rosemeadow on 1st October 2011, 15:28

They are all really excellent minatures, Warren. You sure can breed roses !!!

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Post by Carole on 2nd October 2011, 21:39

What can I say - Rosemeadow has said it for me.
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Post by miss nomer on 3rd October 2011, 12:05

These are just stunning!
I particularly love Earth and Sky too. Wow. love
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