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Found pink rose ID?

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Found pink rose ID?

Post by Admin on 9th December 2008, 17:40

This rose was found in a VERY old garden (100+ years old) here in Tas that has been let go. There were a few of this rose around the place all growing in very long grass with blackberry growing all through it. I've taken a few cuttings to try and strike them and am very interested in trying to find an ID.

About the plant... the flowers are a lovely shell pink but have absolutely no scent at all (not even an unpleasant one... I was most disappoined). I don't know whether it is repeat flowering or not because I haven't seen it at any other time of the year. I do know that it was covered in buds/flowers at different stages of development that look like they will continue to flower for some time yet. The plant itself is not very tall getting to no more than 1m tall but spreads to a bit more than that with slender arching canes. Here are some pics:

The flower, which opens to reveal clear yellow stamens:
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Bud:
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Stipule:
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Old leaf:
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Thorns. It's not overly thorny and the thorns are quite small and greyish:
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It has smaller thorns on the midrib of the leaflet:
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Didn't get any pics of new growth and can't recall what it looked like.

Any ideas?


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Re: Found pink rose ID?

Post by Guest on 10th December 2008, 08:24

No idea Tas, maybe try emailing a few of the Rose Soc. ?? Sure is a pretty one though I love you

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Re: Found pink rose ID?

Post by Admin on 13th December 2008, 09:27

I am actually thinking it might be some kind of Tea... I have trouble noticing the tea-scent of tea roses. Or maybe an old China.

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Post by Admin on 14th December 2008, 22:54

Thanks to Deb Kelly (see the link in the Heritage Rose section) I think this rose might be a very old China rose called Fun Jwan Lo (aka Indica Major) that was often used as a root stock. This is a lovely looking rose. Thanks Deb We're not worthy Now I'll have to make sure the cuttings strike and then find a live one I can compare it too Smile

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Post by Admin on 4th January 2009, 21:00

Deb,

All six of the cuttings of this rose have struck already. Would you like one to have a look at?

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Post by Guest on 6th January 2009, 09:23

That is a great sucess rate and likely one of the reasons such a pretty rose has been used a root stock!
Would love to have one, but it is way too hot here for any distrubing of roots, so maybe wait till autumn or winter to send it?
I know what a pain it is too keep roses around like that so if that is too much trouble I really do understand.

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Post by Admin on 6th January 2009, 10:51

Never a pain. It will work out well actually. I've potted them all on into a large pot together so they can put some size on so I canplant out t his winter. So when I plant out and pull them apart I'll shoot one or two up to you Thumbsup I've been trying to find a source to buy potting bags (tall ones)actually because I've had this idea that you could grow roses in these potting bags leaving enough space at the top so you can seal them shut with a cable tie around the stem to stop soil spilling out and moving so they can be popped into a shipping cylinder and posted anywhere anytime of the year without disturbing any roots. I get spoilt down here I think. I can move roses any time of the year without fear of hurting them.

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Post by Guest on 6th January 2009, 16:55

I use the 2.5 L bags for the own root roses I ship out to folks.

Here is the company I get them from
http://www.northernnursery.macleaycbd.com.au/products.html

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Post by Admin on 11th January 2009, 01:06

Deb. I have just realised that this rose is a gignatea hybrid. The original lineage shows it as a FIRST generation cross with Rosa odorata var. gignatea which is an outdated synonym for Rosa gigantea Collett ex Crépin (which is the variety of R.gigantea we get here in Australia and the type used by Alister Clark in his work). No wonder this plant is sooooo tough... this is where it gets its climbing habit from I guess though I have read that the other parent is thought to be multiflora... in which case I don't know where the double flower has come from???

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