Latest topics
» Has anyone had a similar problem with a rose......
by Ozeboy 21st November 2017, 09:59

» Sad second year roses :(
by The Lazy Rosarian 17th November 2017, 15:40

» what do I need to do?
by eileen0 3rd November 2017, 16:41

» Feeding routines
by carmel 9th October 2017, 10:06

» Two to identify please
by LouiseJB 25th September 2017, 16:02

» rose for sale
by carmel 25th September 2017, 07:46

» Anyone ever heard of this before?
by The Lazy Rosarian 17th September 2017, 16:19

» parole
by Malnewby 14th September 2017, 18:38


Identity Crisis for Abracadabra.

View previous topic View next topic Go down

Identity Crisis for Abracadabra.

Post by OzRose on 21st November 2010, 22:00

Abracadabra is known for being a bit of a gaudy showpony Laughing [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
But with this flush of flowers ,[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
it can't make up it's mind who/what it wants to be.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]


[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

cheers. Rosalie
avatar
OzRose

Number of posts : 510
Age : 55
Location : In the hills. S.W of Western Australia
Registration date : 2010-03-13

Back to top Go down

Re: Identity Crisis for Abracadabra.

Post by Admin on 21st November 2010, 22:14

This is why I don't like this rose... it's a very unstable sport... I would feel dupped if I bought a striped rose that did that to me Smile Great photos Rosalie... the yellow is so intense!

Admin

Number of posts : 3739
Location : Mudgee
Registration date : 2008-02-08

http://www.rosetalkaustralia.com

Back to top Go down

Re: Identity Crisis for Abracadabra.

Post by Ozrosarian on 21st November 2010, 22:25

Rosalie, I think it's charming, and provides lots of fun. But in the striped world, I still prefer Scentimental of them all.
avatar
Ozrosarian

Number of posts : 90
Location : Melbourne
Registration date : 2010-05-31

Back to top Go down

Re: Identity Crisis for Abracadabra.

Post by The Estate on 21st November 2010, 22:58

As much as I love the 'WEE' sweet buds It is a waste of space IMHO, I have 1 in a pot and in the ground , shame because nit is such a nice mini flower, reminds my of my fav Champagner
avatar
The Estate

Number of posts : 498
Location : Victoria
Registration date : 2010-06-03

Back to top Go down

Re: Identity Crisis for Abracadabra.

Post by Admin on 21st November 2010, 23:16

'Champagner' is somewhat of a giant for me here TheE. It's a most wonderful rose. I'm going to use it in breeding this year because it is such a thing of beauty and health down here love

Admin

Number of posts : 3739
Location : Mudgee
Registration date : 2008-02-08

http://www.rosetalkaustralia.com

Back to top Go down

Re: Identity Crisis for Abracadabra.

Post by The Estate on 22nd November 2010, 10:11

Oh Simon I await for further reports Very Happy
avatar
The Estate

Number of posts : 498
Location : Victoria
Registration date : 2010-06-03

Back to top Go down

Re: Identity Crisis for Abracadabra.

Post by OzRose on 22nd November 2010, 12:27

The yellow is the colour of the original bush "Frisco" apparently but reading through the lineage there are sports of sports all over the place.
How far back in a pedigree do you go to find the origins of this instability of colour ?
What I do like about it is how long the blooms stay on the bush and even when they are fully open they keep their shape and don't fade and look tatty.
I posted a photo of one last month , I took the pic on 5/10 and it had been opening for a couple of days then .
I took other photo's of it during the course of the month of Octoberand it finally dropped it's petals during the last day or so of the month.

I hear what you are saying too Simon . If you buy it because it's a novelty striped rose , that's what you want it to produce - novelty striped flowers.

It was released over here in W.A around 2005 , I think it's official release was at the W.A Garden Week Expo actually and it just so happened I went that year with my MIL
We were sitting resting our feet when we saw all this commotion around one of the stands and went over for a squiz.
They had just set up a big display of all these potted flowering Abracadabra bushes and people were just raving.
[Knowing what I know now about them , I wonder how much time was spent nipping off any rogue flower that wasn't striped ?] The atmosphere was just buzzing ; they had no price on them , upon first enquiry we were told that they were for display only and later in the day the story was they's be around $49.95 .
Well I wasn't paying 50 bucks for a rose bush , but I bet there were plenty of cashed up punters there who would have . And how many of those have got plain coloured flowers on a bush when they were expecting stripes .
There's a young fella in Adelaide who posts on another forum I belong to , and he'd been disappointed with the flowers the second year because the percentage of striped flowers had dropped off and he was getting more solid colours .
Must remember to ask him what are they doing now .

I actually don't mind having the three different colours on the plant , makes for a good conversation piece. Laughing
The red is stunning , a deep velvety black red , much darker than in my pic and the vibrancy of the gold is eye popping. One curious thing though ; the red and the striped flowers have a lot more petals than the gold flowers. Hmmmm

cheers. Rosalie
avatar
OzRose

Number of posts : 510
Age : 55
Location : In the hills. S.W of Western Australia
Registration date : 2010-03-13

Back to top Go down

Re: Identity Crisis for Abracadabra.

Post by orchid40 on 22nd November 2010, 18:49

I enjoy Abracadabra. Ut's interesting to see what color the next buds will open. So far this year mine have all been striped, and I didn't get many sports last year. It's true, the blooms last and last.

orchid40

Number of posts : 622
Location : Tootgarook, Vic
Registration date : 2008-02-10

http://orchid40-valsobsession-orchid40.blogspot.com

Back to top Go down

Re: Identity Crisis for Abracadabra.

Post by RosyTeesh on 28th August 2012, 08:18

Not sure if I can reply to such an old post, but, does anyone still have 'Abracadabra'?

I have two now and neither of them seem to want to grow much taller than foot high. One has reverted back and one has teeny tiny scrawny flowers.

One lady told me that they need temperature control so I have put them under some shadecloth in pots.

Any advice wouild be appreciated! I know they are not a favourite of some rose growers as they have no scent but I adore them.
avatar
RosyTeesh

Number of posts : 679
Location : Brisbane QLD
Registration date : 2012-07-11

Back to top Go down

Re: Identity Crisis for Abracadabra.

Post by neptune on 28th August 2012, 09:27

I have one that is in full sun and is happy to be there and yes they don't grow that tall at all.At the moment mine is about 600mm tall, but hope for a bit taller once summer starts to set in
avatar
neptune

Number of posts : 2418
Location : Western Australia
Registration date : 2010-06-26

Back to top Go down

Re: Identity Crisis for Abracadabra.

Post by RosyTeesh on 28th August 2012, 10:02

Do you have any photos at all? And thank you Smile
avatar
RosyTeesh

Number of posts : 679
Location : Brisbane QLD
Registration date : 2012-07-11

Back to top Go down

Re: Identity Crisis for Abracadabra.

Post by neptune on 28th August 2012, 17:01

of the bush or the flower?
avatar
neptune

Number of posts : 2418
Location : Western Australia
Registration date : 2010-06-26

Back to top Go down

Re: Identity Crisis for Abracadabra.

Post by RosyTeesh on 28th August 2012, 17:04

Oh anything Smile
avatar
RosyTeesh

Number of posts : 679
Location : Brisbane QLD
Registration date : 2012-07-11

Back to top Go down

Re: Identity Crisis for Abracadabra.

Post by neptune on 28th August 2012, 17:08

at this stage there is only minimal leaves on there after the prune and the heat hasn't started up here, but I will oblige you as soon as it is possible....
avatar
neptune

Number of posts : 2418
Location : Western Australia
Registration date : 2010-06-26

Back to top Go down

Re: Identity Crisis for Abracadabra.

Post by RosyTeesh on 28th August 2012, 18:03

Thank you Smile
avatar
RosyTeesh

Number of posts : 679
Location : Brisbane QLD
Registration date : 2012-07-11

Back to top Go down

Re: Identity Crisis for Abracadabra.

Post by jordan71 on 28th August 2012, 18:10

RosyTeesh wrote:Not sure if I can reply to such an old post, but, does anyone still have 'Abracadabra'?

I have two now and neither of them seem to want to grow much taller than foot high. One has reverted back and one has teeny tiny scrawny flowers.

One lady told me that they need temperature control so I have put them under some shadecloth in pots.

Any advice wouild be appreciated! I know they are not a favourite of some rose growers as they have no scent but I adore them.

i have one .. but yet to flower, looking forward to it actually.
avatar
jordan71

Number of posts : 1699
Location : melbourne
Registration date : 2012-03-02

Back to top Go down

Re: Identity Crisis for Abracadabra.

Post by RosyTeesh on 28th August 2012, 18:21

Would be interested to know how it goes Jordan71 Smile
avatar
RosyTeesh

Number of posts : 679
Location : Brisbane QLD
Registration date : 2012-07-11

Back to top Go down

Re: Identity Crisis for Abracadabra.

Post by jordan71 on 28th August 2012, 18:23

yeah hopefuly it will be a good rose .. not a big fan of striped roses .. but when i saw it the first time .. i loved it

now bit worried about the sports Sad
avatar
jordan71

Number of posts : 1699
Location : melbourne
Registration date : 2012-03-02

Back to top Go down

Re: Identity Crisis for Abracadabra.

Post by RosyTeesh on 28th August 2012, 18:31

Mine just won't grow so I have sent them to pots and taken them out of full all day sun. They are doing better but still slow growing Sad
avatar
RosyTeesh

Number of posts : 679
Location : Brisbane QLD
Registration date : 2012-07-11

Back to top Go down

Re: Identity Crisis for Abracadabra.

Post by jordan71 on 28th August 2012, 18:44

it is a slow growing rose tho .. not sure if melbourne weather has anything to do with it
avatar
jordan71

Number of posts : 1699
Location : melbourne
Registration date : 2012-03-02

Back to top Go down

Re: Identity Crisis for Abracadabra.

Post by RosyTeesh on 28th August 2012, 18:52

It's slow in Brisbane too Sad One is a year old and looks bare rooted. Lol
avatar
RosyTeesh

Number of posts : 679
Location : Brisbane QLD
Registration date : 2012-07-11

Back to top Go down

Re: Identity Crisis for Abracadabra.

Post by jordan71 on 28th August 2012, 18:55

lol gee that is slow
avatar
jordan71

Number of posts : 1699
Location : melbourne
Registration date : 2012-03-02

Back to top Go down

Re: Identity Crisis for Abracadabra.

Post by neptune on 28th August 2012, 19:58

Here are a couple from last April before they slowed down for winter.....

[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

avatar
neptune

Number of posts : 2418
Location : Western Australia
Registration date : 2010-06-26

Back to top Go down

Re: Identity Crisis for Abracadabra.

Post by RosyTeesh on 28th August 2012, 21:08

Oh Neptune that is beautiful. I am so jealous!!
avatar
RosyTeesh

Number of posts : 679
Location : Brisbane QLD
Registration date : 2012-07-11

Back to top Go down

Re: Identity Crisis for Abracadabra.

Post by Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

View previous topic View next topic Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum