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Thought I would just post some pictures and managed to put them in a file but that's it. I e-mailed them to Simon and will see if it worked. The pictures where mostly of the second attempt to grow by seeds. I now have about 300 of them planted outside in the real world. You should see how the wind flattens some of them to the ground, but 1/4 inch hail just bounced off the leaves. Good thing that only lasted a few minutes. Growing roses from seed gives a whole new meaning and experience to having roses. We'll see what happens. Last year wasn't so good but the learning curve is pretty steep. Thanks for the info on this site.

Thanks Simon I started 10 trays over a series of days on 1/3/10 and had them in the basement along with 4 trays from last year with one 4 foot two bulb light fixture and two overhead lights and a heater under the bench set at 62 degrees F. After 12 weeks in a cold dark refrigerator anything was better and what a mess the baggies where in. These seedlings have pressed the weather envelop all year.

On my computer after the copy tab is hit the little box turns blue, go there and hit the right mouse button and you get another box and pick copy then go up and hit the image box then the paper clip box appears and hit once to get the line and use the right mouse button again and another box appears hit paste and something shows up, this is what you want, then hit o.k. then move then screen down and hit Preview and if you like it hit Send. Cheers!

Neil. Hello. and welcome. Neil I have many questions to ask will limit it to 2 at a time, simple one's first.
1. In one photo I think I see peat pots and if so is that one of your starting methods.
2. In another photo you seem to have what appears to be coco fibre(is it) and how is the success rate of it.

Hello roseman, yes, 2-2-2 tapered so fifty fits in a tray. They come with a very thin plastic seperater so they are a touch off the bottom of the tray what with the crinkles and the roots have somewhere to go. When the seedlings in the basement start hitting the tops of the domes they are pried out and put in the pots and moved to the kitchen next to a window and a warmer condition, because it is frozen outdoors. That is indeed cocoa fiber. I tried it this year for damp off and I like it. All my trays are have a lot of condensation but very little damp off. Cheers Neil

Hello Simon, The greenhouse is made of fiberglass. I bought it at a garden show and was sold on it because it was half price and they talked about the diffused light effects. No shadows and the bottom shelves are the same as the top shelves for light. Sunlight in the city is a premium what with the big trees. It seems like if the sun hits any part of it you get reflection everywhere. It seems o.k. so far, the roses like it. The last two weeks the temp. goes from 37deg. to 70deg.F so no in and out of the refrigerator routine. Cheers Neil

Neil, the coloured tags identify each different quantity of seeds and variety I assume.
Are they OP seeds or planned crosses.
The close up of the seedlings(sixth last photo) which appears to be about 3-4in tall look healthy, how old would they be.

Roseman, Sorry, nothing that complex but a good idea. These are craft sticks from the dollar store, 120 per pack. Do not use the wood ones, they stain bad. All are OP seeds. it's like ok, lets see what you got. Now I know. All six trays are about two and half months since breaking surface. I'll explain another time. There are 14 mothers of various ability. The photo is a little oversize, the one in front is about 51/2 inches, the tallest ones 7 inches, in photos and most about as thick as a round toothpick. All had roots coming out and waiting on the weather to break for their out door adventure. I don' t care, Mr Lincoln is a mother in this case Cheers Neil Better to mark on both sides of the craft sticks.

Neil, 300 planted outside already and are the one's in the pictures to go out in spring.
Are the one's to go out all Mr Lincoln.
Has Camp David or Papa Meiland come into contension in your crosses as yet.
Are HT's your only interest or are there old fashioned one's to come.

roseman, It is spring here zone 6. and the five trays in one shot and the blurry one above are outside now. There is somewhat less than 300 out there now because those with 14 leaves 2" tall where recycled. When you have to use a magnifying glass to see whats going on, that's small. Mr LIncoln is #24 and only about 25 potted up. HT's and two climbers was my only interest but now I understand some are probably not. Actually my only interest to start with in this current endeavor was to grow a rose from seed and the little plants above is what you get after one year in this area. I'm hoping some will get knee high this year.

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