Noisette search

Dear members of the forum,
Any thoughts where I may obtain a couple of Tea/Noisette roses,?
namely Marechal Niel and Duchesse d'Auerstadt.
I have a climbing trellis as part of a rose bed,with Noisettes and Alister Clarks,but would love some yellow of the same type.
Regards,
Stephen

Stephen, long time no post, good to see you have started again. Mistydowns on the first and Ladybird Roses on second one

Many thanks,
While I have not yet participated,I keenly observe and am impressed by the wealth of experience and knowledge,I promise to become a more active member.

I think you can get both at Mistydowns.

Well, i think you guys have answered my question as well. I'll be gearing up next year to start growing some Teas and was wondering where i can purchase them. Thanks for the info.

Rustons have both of those.

Simon, dispatching to various parts of Oz might be the difficulty.
If they all come to me then dispatched to you they would be cut Monday and posted, arriving here next day delivery capital city to capital city arriving here Thursday. If they were then posted to you in Thursdays mail you would possibly get them Wednesday or Thursday. That's 10 days shipping time. In late April that would be possible but in Summer, out of the question.

There is some reason why they won't ship to you, possibly too much red tape to Tassie.

If ever I I went to Ruston's coupled with a holiday then I could collect budwood and dispatch from there. They would last 7 days in reasonably mild weather.

Budwood selection at Rustons is a real credit to them for I get very good results.

I do a bit of budding for other people and results are excellent to very poor due to their selection. My rootstock can vary greatly from potted 2 years old to 2 year or 3 months old in the ground. This all makes it very challenging together with not knowing how much I will need. Sometimes a parcel arrives in the post quite out of the blue just when all I have is rootstock that is very old or very young with just a very small shoot.
This season I planted 450 stocks and had a carry over of 150 two year old stocks and might not have enough to finish the season.

December to January is my stock planting time for April budding. These usually produce those very long canes in September when the buds have been allowed to sleep until end of August. After cutting all my requirements all canes are removed from the mother rootstock ( Multiflora ). The mother plants are then encouraged to grow new canes to be taken off next August.
There is a tendency for older canes to develope those large side shoots if allowed more growing time.

The Mother Multiflora are never budded onto but kept 200 yards from where the rootstock is prepared for budding. I notice overseas propagators use the tops from last season budded stocks to grow another season of rootstocks for budding. That's the fastest way I know of to have a major Mosaic Virus infection unless the buds have been clear.

Possibly not the right place to add these details but am a little lazy today.

Bruce, since you mentioned Mosaic Virus. I have never seen it and nor has David. I have asked other people in the industry and they havn't seen it so could you or any member that has this virus please post a picture and explanatory notes on what to look for. I can only assume that it must be something with an alternative name.

Thank you Simon, I will have a look. As I think I said some people might call it by a different name. Now I will have to check.

The wood is up to 150mm long depending on the variety. The blooms are removed and leaf stems cut to about 10mm long to act as a handle if T budding. If you can strike soft growth OK then some would be suitable.
They are really sending good young growth suitable for budding so would persue that when it arrives. If you have a look at the chip budding details I sent to Dee you shouldn't have any problems getting success. In the meantime would trial a hundred and get your skills up. If the buds stay green and start to swell after the tops are cut off then I would consider buying a few buds from Rustons.

I will send you some more information that I can send direct to your Email address.

Carole, Simon has come to the rescue. Mosaic Virus is pretty common, most people don't know they have it unless the plant is stressed. The plant just never seems to be vigorous and sometimes has the typical water mark.

Must admit having had it myself and it was Cree who put a name to it for me.

If you put a bud on any rootstock don't use it again. Have your mother Multiflora plants seperate just for cutting sticks from. Some budders use rootstock over and over again either by putting buds on mother plants to hold them or reuse the tops from budded rootstocks.
imagine putting a virused bud on a rootstock then cutting the top off this now infected Multiflora and making possiblt 10 new sticks from that. Then cutting the tops off these 10 and now making 100 sticks from them.
What a massive problem you would end up with in just 3 years.
The problem is the plants don't show signs of the virus all the time so it's very hard to identify all infected plants.