Hall of Shame Roses

Simon, forgot to mention I have 'Souvenir de Claudius Pernet' growing here as a result of being sent some budwood. The plants are destined for Margaret and Rustons. Surprising it has not been a big blackspot problem since I have had it. Possibly it's offspring suffer blackspot worse than this parent. It's reputation frightens everyone away from growing it but here it is just like the average HT

It is a much better performer than AMADEUS and some other HT's

That's good to hear. Black spot apparently isn't much of a problem at Renmark, so overall it should do well, and historically it's very significant in rose-breeding.

So far by far the worst performed that we have tried is bloody "White Iceberg".

It simply will not grow for us. The neighbour up the hill gree them fine but ours did not grow. When we went to Tas. they were everywhere and probably competed with the dog rose for the "weed" champoin of the island.

People have them growing in the middle of lawns (ie no garden beds) and even houses that the owners appear to struggle to afford to eat have gloriious Iceburgs.

But in saying that Blanch Fluer when it flowers and White Ensign kills Iceburg for beauty of a white flower (at our place anyway).