Re: 'Australian Beauty'

Balinbear · by Balinbear on 7th May 2010, 1:42 pm

MVH and "Adam" both set hips readily.

I am going to try to get some seeds going again from one of these.

Something ate the 6 or so that I had. Thye were about 3 cm tall and I checked them one arvo and the next morning they were all gone apart from a couple of stems.

Simon · by Simon on 7th May 2010, 6:31 pm

The next question I wanted to ask was has the real 'Adam' ever been here? I wonder which one was the seed parent of 'Australian Beauty'? I guess I should have made myself more clear as well in that I was more blaming the susceptibility to mildew on the Tea blood (in general) and not "Adam" specifically given a lot of the Teas I have seem also to be prone to mildew (the only one that isn't so far is 'Monsier Tillier'... another can of worms rose LOL... 'Souv. de MME Leonie Viennot' and even gigantea itself get a little mildew here but are next in line in terms of resitance to mildew. 'Comtesse de Labarth', 'Sir Francis Xavier', 'Francis Dubreuil' NOT, 'Lorraine Lee', 'Rosa Indicia Major', 'Lamarque', and 'Safrano' all seem quite susceptible... I've included Teas, Noisettes together. Crepuscule and 'Lady Huntingfield' seem quite immune to both mildew and black spot here. "Adam" and 'Marie Van Houtte' have just arrived and don't have leaves yet so ask me about them again this time next year). In this respect I don't think it matters much whether its seed parent was 'Adam', "Adam", 'MME Berard', or 'The President'... the outcome may have been similar. What I am more interested in is whether AB takes after the Tea side or the HP side because it gives me an idea as to how the Tea traits seem to be passed on from "Adam" in this cross. Judging by AB's reputation of being prone to mildew and that it is a climber like "Adam" is I would say the Tea traits feature prominently in this case... this is a good thing as it is these feature I think we should be trying to retain in any breeding program involving Teas. If Wal Johnston said it was prone the black spot I would have assumed it was probably from the HP side of the family.

Ozeboy · by Ozeboy on 7th May 2010, 10:13 pm

Hi Simon, I still want to try it up here in Sydney. I get Powdery Mildew on roses I have on a south wall but all other positions are OK.

Would still like to have it and form my own conclusions.

Look at Souvenir de Claudius Pernet where everyone suggested it was a Blackspot Magnet. It is flowering so well at present and it's Autumn blooms are 3 shades deeper yellow. A very nice yellow HT rose that doesn't deserve the less than favourable reputation.

Would you please ask the guy to mail direct to me if you don't want to bother with it. Will Email my address direct to you if you don't have it.

Please let me also have details regarding costs so I can send direct or to you.

Bruce

Ozeboy · by Ozeboy on 4th September 2010, 7:27 pm

Update, Australian Beauty wood was very old but have one ownroot (Early Days) shooting and another calloused and just planted.

There is one minute bud on Multiflora at a stand still making 3 posabilities in all.

All the ownroot roses I have propagated here were duds except for New Dawn, Albertine and Cecile Brunner. Most of the Tea's did not grow well on their ownroots. I expect we are asking too much from all the varieties of roses to do well in the large variety of soils in Australia. The same can be said of Multiflora and other different roses used as rootstock.
Have heard Multiflora doesn't like acid soil however I have had roses on Multiflora surrounded by Kikuyu that is growing yellow because the PH is around 3. So the search for the perfect propagation method goes on but somehow I think it is down the back with the Le'prechauns.

Simon · by Simon on 4th September 2010, 9:40 pm

Multiflora loves acid soils... that's what does well down here on pH 5.5. It's Dr Phooey hates acidic soil.

I had one 'Australian Beauty' cutting fail, one look to have taken and is sprouting, and one that started to fail which was recut and started again.

Margaret · by Margaret on 5th September 2010, 9:37 am

I had a look in the igloo last week (near Renmark), and I think all our Aus Beauty cuttings are failing. One of the very few from this winter's batch.